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Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by kharak »

PKop wrote: post #69
jcranmer wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is collapsing so quickly and in such spectacular fashion that it would probably be better to have some sort of permathread that consolidates the latest updates on Twitter. At the rate it's going, Twitter may be spared all of the lawsuits coming its way simply by virtue of not existing by the time the lawsuits can come to fruition.

Website and app working fine for me. Don't really see this "spectacular collapse" everyone seems to wish would happen

Have to agree. I’m bewildered by the (social) media reaction so far. People, the app still works. Over a thousand employees will continue to work for Twitter.

As far as I understand, Twitter is financially in a terrible state. Huge changes have to happen. Let’s all just wait and see how it will turn out.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by gambiting »

memish wrote: post #123
gambiting wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I very much doubt that. Twitter must have had some bloat, but there's no way that 80% of the workforce was bloat. I'd be extremely surprised if Twitter(as in, the website/app, not the registered legal entity) still exists and works by the end of this year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

I mean, it's possible, but the organisation would need to be extremely disfunctional for that to be the case - that's the level of bloat I'd expect out of a government agency not a private corporation. If you have teams where 8 out of 10 people do literally nothing or pretend, it should be obvious.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by unity1001 »

madeofpalk wrote: post #120
BitwiseFool wrote: post #77

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Working for one of Elon Musk's companies sounds brutal, but I can understand the appeal of burning hot and bright on something truly innovative. I would feel proud and motivated to work like crazy on something like Starship, but this is Twitter. I suspect Musk's strategy of appealing to people who want to change the world and be on the bleeding edge of technology won't hold up the same way as it did for his other com…

> on something truly innovative. like twitter? apparently elon's master plan is 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism?

> 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism

What's wrong with 2000s-era blogspot citizen journalism.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by kansface »

memish wrote: post #123
gambiting wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I very much doubt that. Twitter must have had some bloat, but there's no way that 80% of the workforce was bloat. I'd be extremely surprised if Twitter(as in, the website/app, not the registered legal entity) still exists and works by the end of this year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

Even if this were correct, the specific 20% matters.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by m_ke »

rem7 wrote: post #109

In my opinion Elon miscalculated the type of people at Twitter. These aren’t people like the ones in Tesla or SpaceX where there is some sort of idealization of Elon. The number of fan boys he has at Twitter must be super low. None of the Twitter employees signed up to work for him, it’s pretty obvious from the public tweets that most of the staff has posted that they don’t have much respect for him. On top of that,…

Engineers interested in cars or rockets have way fewer exciting options than web devs working at Twitter.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by dboreham »

Moctogo wrote: post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

For sure Twitter could continue to function as before with 20% of staff. Problem is : not the 20% that they actually have.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by epistasis »

memish wrote: post #123
gambiting wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I very much doubt that. Twitter must have had some bloat, but there's no way that 80% of the workforce was bloat. I'd be extremely surprised if Twitter(as in, the website/app, not the registered legal entity) still exists and works by the end of this year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

These sorts of massive cuts, coupled with massively decreasing workplace quality, and with removing any chance of financial reward (no more liquidity in shares of the company!!), are going to cause the most talented people to go to greener pastures.

The people who stay will be those with the least options.

Musk has made employment at Twitter hugely risky, with no possibility of reward. Really boneheaded business, completely incompetent cutting off the workforce, honestly. Hard to imagine a worse way of pruning the workforce.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by porknubbins »

I don't know if you can compare SpaceX or Tesla to running a CRUD app. Engineering rockets is probably 100x harder than building twitter, but there is something very reassuring when all of the complexity of your product is embodied in a physical object you can touch and see, compared to an information context where you don't even know how many layers of abstractions you are working with.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Post by lijogdfljk »

jcranmer wrote: post #130
Moctogo wrote: post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

You're assuming that someone leaving immediately causes things to break down. A lot of things will take some time to see the effects of people leaving. Fire your entire payroll department. No one will notice... until the biweekly paychecks don't go out, and now your employees aren't getting paid. Fire badge security. No one will notice... until you need someone to make a new badge for a new employee. Fire your IT sta…

Also imagine job postings.

Ignoring Elon for sake of discussion, it would be a big a big boon for my career to work at Twitter.. but when 80% of the staff left? I'd be worried onboarding would be a mess. That i'd be handed several projects that no one knows how they work or what the ramifications are.

Ignoring all the red flags and focusing solely on onboarding sounds like misery.. not sure i'd want to take that job.

I imagine many will.. but .. oof.

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