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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by GreekLegends »

r721 wrote: post #157

>Hundreds upon hundreds of Twitter employees have technically resigned but still have access to Twitter’s internal systems, with some speculating it is because the employees tasked with managing that access also resigned. https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1593431420587761664

Most tweets about the Elon/twitter situation are fake nonsense, including this one.

Last week a tweet said Elon had shut down the microservice responsible for 2FA. 100,000 upvotes on Reddit/twitter and 1000s of shouting comments. The story was nonsense of course. Depressing to see such discourse gets posted here too.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by sciurus »

carbonatedmilk wrote: post #747
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

I'm not saying it's a fair metric, but when I compare Twitter's open output to similarly VC-funded-but-now-public companies, the engineering output doesn't seem particularly exciting. For comparison: Meta / Facebook: * React * PyTorch * Fasttext * Their unsung-but-indispensible-for-humanitarian-orgs Data for Good program Google: * Flutter * Go * Kubernetes * Tensorflow * BERT / Large language models generally * Mapre…

See https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1592774269733601281 for some of the examples of technical innovation at Twitter.

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Post by denton-scratch »

brookst wrote: post #181
oska wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> somebody who takes over the company and accrues so much social debt so quickly What is 'social debt' and how is it (objectively) measured?

Think of it as negative goodwill. It is not objectively measured, in the same way that goodwill on balance sheets is not objectively measured. But it’s a real thing. Qualitatively it is the impairment from people not wanting to do business with you. In Twitter’s case, that manifests as decreased advertiser demand, which results in lower ad prices. And to the extent Twitter is losing MAU, that impacts ad inventory.

I thought "goodwill" was routinely assessed and considered in takeovers. It amounts to the goodwill of the customer base, doesn't it? I.e., how many customers are they, how much are they worth, and will the new owner get to keep them?

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by mrweasel »

lukaszkups wrote: post #662
bartimus wrote: post #218

How many people does it take to keep HN running?

that question sounds like a start of a joke :D

  - Umm they got to have a steering wheel, there's a minimum crew requirement. 
  - What's the minimum crew?
  - Oh, one I suppose.
It does sort of feel like "The front fell off". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by Keyframe »

carbonatedmilk wrote: post #747
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

I'm not saying it's a fair metric, but when I compare Twitter's open output to similarly VC-funded-but-now-public companies, the engineering output doesn't seem particularly exciting. For comparison: Meta / Facebook: * React * PyTorch * Fasttext * Their unsung-but-indispensible-for-humanitarian-orgs Data for Good program Google: * Flutter * Go * Kubernetes * Tensorflow * BERT / Large language models generally * Mapre…

They could've supported bootstrap more than they did, right?

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by rilut »

carbonatedmilk wrote: post #747
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

I'm not saying it's a fair metric, but when I compare Twitter's open output to similarly VC-funded-but-now-public companies, the engineering output doesn't seem particularly exciting. For comparison: Meta / Facebook: * React * PyTorch * Fasttext * Their unsung-but-indispensible-for-humanitarian-orgs Data for Good program Google: * Flutter * Go * Kubernetes * Tensorflow * BERT / Large language models generally * Mapre…

+ Presto from Facebook

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by GreekLegends »

r721 wrote: post #375

>In addition to the payroll team being gone, Twitter's entire US tax team is gone, I'm told, along with its financial reporting team. Not great. https://twitter.com/HaysKali/status/1593449877094047744

The source is a random tweet. It's incredible to see people consume such propaganda wholesale. There seems to be a derangement when it comes to Elon Musk, people will literally believe anything. Millions of people last week ACTUALLY BELIEVED that Elon Musk shut down the the microservice responsible for 2FA. The source of that story was also a random tweet.

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Post by rnd0 »

avidphantasm wrote: post #758
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

On principal, I hope it crashes and burns and ruins him. And I know this will cause a lot of people to suffer some. I am so sorry for that. But these piss ant billionaires need to start facing real consequences when they behave so abhorrently. I hope all of his ventures fail similarly. Fuck him and his petulant behavior forever.

Billionares have a support system of other billionares giving one another handsies. I'm sure if Musk was in danger of feeling pain someone like Thiel or Bezos would step up to give him a hand perhaps without interest even.

I agree "fuck him", but sadly I doubt he'll suffer much of a fallout of this.

That said I am riding the sweet wave of schadenfreude and do hope that twitter crashes and burns (and that everyone who works there gets severance)

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by DAVer98 »

eugenethespleen wrote: post #591
shp0ngle wrote: post #569

I would obviously not want to work in such an environment, but. Given that he fired so many people, yet the site is working unchanged and works exactly the same as before, maybe he’s not that crazy? I can log in to the website and see no difference; nothing is obviously broken. Maybe he’s right and most people were doing nothing? I don’t know.

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