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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Are people who still want to argue that Elon isn't destroying Twitter?

Trying to be objective, isn't downsizing what all tech companies are doing? There's a lot of PR mismanagement here, but it seems to be in line with the rest for the moment (leaving aside EM bs). And Twitter is no Meta. There are no alternative products to bring in cash revenue, so hardcore downsizing it is.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#723

The management is worried about internal sabotage? My Twitter friends said Twitter has been having large exodus. CSL(core systems lib?) team, blobstore team, graph platform team, and revenue forecasting team seemed have all quit. I'm not sure how robust and autonomous Twitter's infra is. Hopefully Twitter will continue to function.

It makes me wonder how much “infrastructure runway” a company like Twitter has. If every engineer resigns, how long will it take before the infrastructure stops working autonomously… server/DB hard drives fill up or crash, PSUs die, high maintenance processes grind to a haunt, network capacity stops scaling, etc.

I think we're going to find out in the next few days, but if you believe this graph the signs are not encouraging (NB: this appears to be self-reported outages so I'm not sure that it is trustworthy):

https://downdetector.co.uk/status/twitter/

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#724
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I need everyone to think very carefully about the attack surface, and how long it has been left unprotected, and how long it will be unprotected. Now, I need you to consider the following proposition: that eyeballs are to codebases, dashboards and telemetry as floss is to tooth and gum. Then, I need you to go to your phone and uninstall Twitter. Also, when you do visit it, visit it in Firefox. Use a Firefox Container…

This is quite the extrapolation of fear.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#725

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> I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's been more than twenty years since the dot-com bust and people still think that just because a company is on a website that makes it a tech company. Sure, Twitter's product is twitter.com the website, but most criticism of it and ideas for improvement don't revolve around the engineering aspects of keeping a website running: t…

> the great distributed system that runs behind the scenes As someone is reported to have been asked in a Twitter job interview, when a celebrity with 10,000,000 followers sends out a tweet, how do you deliver them all within 3 seconds?

Did someone measure the 3 seconds delay on tweets sent to 10 mil followers ? Or just some assumption based on lower scale tests ?

I'd imagine "shard the servers serving the subscription to users, accessing sharded database/queue of new tweets" would get you close. Much easier to do with established software now than when twitter was created tho.

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#726

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And the people looking at your resume later. Staying at Twitter now will need a darn good explanation, otherwise I guess the assumption is you buy into this BS, or you need your visa. If you need your visa I get it, otherwise that is a stain on your resume

Good point re visa. Thats why i refused transfer offers to the us and generally speaking stayed away from h1b. It’s basically a form of paid indentured servitude.

This limited definition of "indentured servitude" would describe the analogs to H-1B visas in most Western countries, which I think does a disservice to other problems with the US system that aren't as common: its cost to businesses/employees, the inconsistency in achieving permanent resident status, etc.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#727

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

Regular people have been trying to explain this to the "center-right" for a while now: Twitter's moderation policies weren't primarily dictated by their political views, they were primarily dictated by building an advertiser friendly platform. Which Musk exploded almost immediately by endorsing a far right homophobic conspiracy theory about a violent attack on the family member of an elected politician. You can say "…

Having ISIS & Taliban accounts not a problem for Advertisers. Twitter lost my support when they provided the platform for terrriosts.

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#728

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> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…

They've lost 50%+ of their staff. They'll have to go 'hardcore' just to stand still.

They've probably already lost 95% of the 'hardcore' people. If you're good, and EM's threatening to fire everyone, then you get another job. The people who've stayed are presumably makeweights and time-servers.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#729

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> modern liberals against freedom of speech Can you please give me specific examples of speech that modern liberals are against?

Covid - if you question the efficacy of masks, vaccines, lockdowns etc then you should immediately be deplatformed.

And you being downvoted proves the point.

It's the same in Europe with the refugee policy, if you dare question that maybe it isn't best for Europe to blindly accept tens of millions of refugees from American wars whilst our economy is in complete freefall, you are branded as racist and cancelled.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#730

How does one follow a come-back-to-office police while being simultaniously being locked out from said office? Is this an employer lockout, the employer version of an employee strike? So many questions! Maybe one of those blue checkmarked Elon's on Twitter can answer! But seriously, how can someone burn down something he just bought for 44 billion so fast and consequently?

That's also my thought. I cannot believe someone could burn through cash possibly this fast in history.

Surely, something to be remembered for...

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