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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#691

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

Oh comeon. Musk acted like a douch to his employees. Actively trying to make their life crap and shitpoating on how bad they are. This had nothing to do with politics. More like ppl with other options taking them to avoid being treated like crap.

A Much simpler explanation

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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You're missing a significant bullet point which is that in-between Musk arriving and Twitter employees resigning, Musk fired 50% of the workforce. That seems like a much more significant factor in whether systems can be maintained.

Good point. And that also probably creates fear/resentment among the remaining employees. I guess Elon is a weird combination of being very good at the "visionary" aspects of leadership (inspiring people with "Occupy Mars") and being very bad at the "managing" aspects (creating psychological safety & high morale for employees). This leadership style doesn't work unless your employees believe in your vision.

He's done little to nothing since the takeover of Twitter to articulate a meaningful or inspiring vision. At best his messaging has been erratic.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#693

My respect to twitter folks quitting en mass is through the roof. I understand those who can not quit right now due to financial commitments. But as soon as your house is in order, quit. This will send a strong message to anyone trying to emulate musk.

And the people looking at your resume later. Staying at Twitter now will need a darn good explanation, otherwise I guess the assumption is you buy into this BS, or you need your visa. If you need your visa I get it, otherwise that is a stain on your resume

Good point re visa. Thats why i refused transfer offers to the us and generally speaking stayed away from h1b. It’s basically a form of paid indentured servitude.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#694
This one goes for those who are positive towards EM right now (honest question, no ill intentions here): is there any way at all to look at his actions in the past weeks in a positive light from an administrative perspective? I mean, ok, you could argue that Twitter was in a bad shape and so on, but anyway, is there any real objective justification for such a messy, chaotic approach to its reorganization? Can anyone really expect to improve a company this way? He recently tweeted a meme of twitter burying twitter, and to me it really feels like the kind of thing a teenager would do, "oh shit, I made a mistake with this acquisition, let me blame someone for it".

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#695

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

Here's my own understanding:

* Musk didn't really want to buy Twitter. He screwed up and got locked into a contract he couldn't figure out a way out of.

* Having figured that he vastly overpaid, he panicked and tried to cut down the fat. Problem is that he hasn't spent enough time there to figure out where's the fat.

* Musk fundamentally doesn't understand what he has bought. He doesn't understand that Twitter's business relies on pleasing advertisers, who don't give a crap about free speech ideals and are very risk averse.

* Musk doesn't understand that what he bought is far more about people skills than anything else. Managing an online community is an exercise in cat herding. At Twitter's scale you also have to content with thorny legal issues. None of that is fun. Many forces push things into a familiar direction, and "free speech" is a very tough direction to pick.

* Musk doesn't understand even the basics of the platform he bought, like why the blue checkmarks provided any value. He proceeded to immediately throw a huge wrench into that system, to nearly no economic benefit.

* Musk is trying to have his cake and eat it too. On one hand he wants unrestricted free speech, on the other hand he wants to make money from advertisers that don't care for free speech. You can pick one or the other.

* Musk seems not to understand that Twitter isn't SpaceX. There's few places where you can work on a rocket, but a lot of places where you can maintain a backend. You can sell the dream of colonizing Mars to rocket engineers, but Twitter employees can go most anywhere else and do mostly the same thing.

* Musk seems not to understand that since his employees have plentiful options, he can't strong arm them. They can leave. They're generally well paid, and his takeover provides plentiful options for them to organize, help each other and start lawsuits if he breaks any laws.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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post #620

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing a significant bullet point which is that in-between Musk arriving and Twitter employees resigning, Musk fired 50% of the workforce. That seems like a much more significant factor in whether systems can be maintained.

If you need half of 7500 people to maintain a system like Twitter, something is fundamentally wrong with the tech stack and the tech people that work there.

Technically your car will drive without a brake pedal, a roof and tires too

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#697

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So not only are they going to find a vulnerability on twitter’s backend that allows them to remotely execute code on the Twitter servers, but then they’re also going to find some vulnerability in the app that is accessible from the previous vulnerability on the backend that allows them to execute arbitrary code on my phone, without pushing any sort of app update to the Apple store, and then they’re going to use that…

You can use Twitter with a third party app. In this regard Twitter stands out from the likes of Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok etc. and is the reason I use it and none of the others.

Haha. Yeah. I still only see the reverse chronological timeline. No advertisements and no algorithm screwing up my timeline. Thanks Tweetbot.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#699

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Out of curiosity, where do you tend to learn about this stuff? What sites/news sources do you use?

Mostly twitter actually. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/with_replies and tweets it recommends to me. I don't actually have an account.

Can't you tell your source is absolutely 100% biased ?

I can't tell if you're satire or for real

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

#700
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I was really thinking about this sabbotage thing yesterday. In these large companies, to make changes to a lot of systems, you have to have someone else also sign on to the changes (eg. code review). If your aim is sabotage, you would have to find a like minded saboteur to work with you. In normal times, at most places, this is risky, because most others would not want to assist you, and would likely report you. The…

"If your aim is sabotage, you would have to find a like minded saboteur to work with you"

You are thinking active sabotage like git-committing a bug. Passive sabotage is trivial. I recommend skinming the CIA saboteur manual on the topic.

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