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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by solarkraft »

bydlocoder wrote: post #353
notacoward wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not long, but perhaps not for the reasons you think. With the code base frozen, no new incompatibilities can be introduced. That's how software (including operating system) releases worked for many years, and they did work. VM/container images are still basically this way, and they tend to keep running quite well too. One problem with both of these models is that existing security vulnerabilities don't get fixed, but…

Dude, they use machine learning to tune JVM and OS scheduler, they'll handle restarts just fine.

Just put some Tesla autopilot engineers on it.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by RavingGoat »

systemvoltage wrote: post #438
7e wrote: post #228

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But Elon was fired from PayPal. He failed at Boring Company and Neuralink. He faked his educational credentials and was in the country illegally. He failed at Full Self Driving, the Roadster is nowhere to be seen, the Cybertruck is MIA and the Tesla Semi is years late. 95% of predictions he has made has failed to pass. As far as I can tell, he lucked out during the .com boom, then invested in Tesla and almost drove i…

I think this comment is fueling me to go work at Twitter and give a helping hand to some of the work that needs to happen there.

Maybe he'll give you a horse

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by zarzavat »

ShredKazoo wrote: post #602

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

His biggest mistake was saying that he would allow Trump back. In the minds of many left-leaning people that makes him a sympathizer in a coup attempt, and those left-leaning people succeeded in creating an extreme amount of pressure against Twitter’s customers (the advertisers) to starve the company.

Musk clearly thinks of himself as creating a platform for free speech, but when it comes to coups there is really no such thing as a middle ground or neutrality.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by ShredKazoo »

ffggffggj wrote: post #619
ShredKazoo wrote: post #602

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

Out of curiosity, where do you tend to learn about this stuff? What sites/news sources do you use?

Mostly twitter actually. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/with_replies and tweets it recommends to me. I don't actually have an account.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by graderjs »

pschuegr wrote: post #454
graderjs wrote: post #85

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A culture where being smart gets you social debt may be part of the problem

Arguably, failing to factor human emotions into your leadership techniques does not qualify as smart behavior.

Agree. Is that what he's doing tho?

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by benj111 »

nemothekid wrote: post #34
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…

They've lost 50%+ of their staff.

They'll have to go 'hardcore' just to stand still.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by ShredKazoo »

zarzavat wrote: post #623
ShredKazoo wrote: post #602

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

His biggest mistake was saying that he would allow Trump back. In the minds of many left-leaning people that makes him a sympathizer in a coup attempt, and those left-leaning people succeeded in creating an extreme amount of pressure against Twitter’s customers (the advertisers) to starve the company. Musk clearly thinks of himself as creating a platform for free speech, but when it comes to coups there is really no…

Can you provide a source for Musk saying that he would allow Trump back? Last I heard, he formed an advisory board, and said account reinstatements were pending discussions of advisory board.

In any case, I think you're correct that this is an important subthread.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by solarkraft »

convery wrote: post #567
outlawBand wrote: post #262

So...Elon bought twitter to tank it just to stop that kid from tweeting every time he flew in his private jet?

He announced that he will not take any action against that account as it's free speech. So need to find a new "gotcha" / narrative / joke.

He also claimed he'd be okay with being criticized.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by rich_sasha »

choeger wrote: post #548
DesiLurker wrote: post #541

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This is why I have been saying even if you don't log off from twitter completely at least do houseclean your old tweets with tweetdelete.net (or something IDK). I do not trust Elon to use my posting history responsibly, period.

But you do trust them to delete the data you gave them when you ask nicely?

Sounds like a product. Pay X for us not to leak your embarrassing tweets from N years ago that we "deleted" (lol).

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by ShredKazoo »

spuz wrote: post #620
ShredKazoo wrote: post #602

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

You're missing a significant bullet point which is that in-between Musk arriving and Twitter employees resigning, Musk fired 50% of the workforce. That seems like a much more significant factor in whether systems can be maintained.

Good point. And that also probably creates fear/resentment among the remaining employees.

I guess Elon is a weird combination of being very good at the "visionary" aspects of leadership (inspiring people with "Occupy Mars") and being very bad at the "managing" aspects (creating psychological safety & high morale for employees).

This leadership style doesn't work unless your employees believe in your vision.

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