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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by brookst »

oska wrote: post #139
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

> somebody who takes over the company and accrues so much social debt so quickly What is 'social debt' and how is it (objectively) measured?

Think of it as negative goodwill. It is not objectively measured, in the same way that goodwill on balance sheets is not objectively measured.

But it’s a real thing. Qualitatively it is the impairment from people not wanting to do business with you. In Twitter’s case, that manifests as decreased advertiser demand, which results in lower ad prices.

And to the extent Twitter is losing MAU, that impacts ad inventory.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by mikeyouse »

tru3_power wrote: post #174
cwilkes wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would two of Musk’s financiers in this Qatar and Saudi Arabia want twitter dead? Oh wait.

Source?

The Saudi one is well-known - they're the second largest equity holder in the new org;

https://twitter.com/Alwaleed_Talal/status/158597522656711065...

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Post by [deleted] »

imron wrote: post #106
slg wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a little strange that I have seen almost no Twitter stories on the front page in the last week. Has dang or anyone talked about why that might be? Is it getting caught in the flamewar algorithm? Are they treating this as one big story so any individual article gets removed as a repost?

> Has dang or anyone talked about why that might be? I’ve personally been visiting new and flagging all Twitter/mastodon posts I see (i started doing this after getting sick of all the Twitter/mastodon posts hitting the front page). I don’t want the front page to be all Twitter all the time, and most of the posts boil down to speculation and gossip and the ones that don’t, usually don’t offer anything meaningfully ne…

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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by bla3 »

memish wrote: post #168
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

George Hotz is interviewing there tomorrow. https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/159339146698169139... For a certain kind of engineer, this version of Twitter is far more attractive than the previous one.

I don't think this is serious. Hotz's license plate is FUELON, and he runs comma.ai.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by mikeyouse »

dusing wrote: post #159
heyitsguay wrote: post #3

Is there precedent anyone can point to where these sorts of wild dramatic moves under new leadership led to turning a large company around into success?

What is wild? Musk has said for a long time Twitter needs 75% less staff. What did you expect firing that many people to look like?

Presumably you'd build a coherent plan for what the future company would need, figure out which employees are best suited to get you there, and then make strategic layoffs to non-core services and teams outside of that scope. Or you could send a Google doc to every employee with two days notice saying "Click here to work yourself to death for uncertain reward" and then be surprised when hardly anyone agrees.

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Post by bmitc »

rmatt2000 wrote: post #115

I'm a little bit confounded that Twitter's current culture is such that a large number of people contemplate sabotage as an appropriate response to changing employment conditions. I mean, maybe the company culture really is broken.

Who said they are contemplating it? They simply took their boss’ offer up, and it is the boss who is so paranoid about the reaction to his actions that is locking up the place. Musk and Musk alone caused this and is now getting people like you to somehow blame it on the employees.

Everyone who didn’t click the button has probably already moved on with life, unlike Musk, who I bet tries to back out of the promise of three months of severance.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by jfoutz »

post_break wrote: post #105
fotta wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TLS cert expires on December 12.

Oh man I just smiled like the Grinch.

Me too. I'm not proud of that.

but it looks like somebody had their eyes on that issue

Expires: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:59:59 PM Pacific Standard Time

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by rmatt2000 »

happytoexplain wrote: post #144
rmatt2000 wrote: post #115

I'm a little bit confounded that Twitter's current culture is such that a large number of people contemplate sabotage as an appropriate response to changing employment conditions. I mean, maybe the company culture really is broken.

"Changing employment conditions" is a supernaturally charitable phrasing.

People get layed off from companies all the time. Why is it the end of the world when it happens at Twitter?

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by hyperhopper »

oska wrote: post #139
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

> somebody who takes over the company and accrues so much social debt so quickly What is 'social debt' and how is it (objectively) measured?

You gotta do a lot of nice things before people will trust you or associate with you

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by 3-cheese-sundae »

gonzo41 wrote: post #165
fotta wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TLS cert expires on December 12.

I had a job once, when TLS was new and half the internet was not using some form of SSL. We had to manually do keyswaps on a stack of machines to create a trust network for all the certs. IT really sucked. I made a note of the certificate expiry data and a calendar reminder 3 years into the future to start looking for a new job if I hadn't already.

Hopefully that reminder never slipped pasta your attention.
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