Twitter will fall down over Thanksgiving.
100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
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Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#62Who’s gonna say yes to “extreme hardcore” without “significant pay raise”?
The momentarily desperate and the nihilistic.
I imagine a proportion will say “sure” and do absolutely nothing until they finally get fired. While another group will say yes up to the very minute they find another job.
Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#63I think there are going to be two levels of shock: 1) Never give people an ultimatum. It basically never works in your favor. That was such a dumb thing by Elon and his team. I don't think Elon expected the numbers to be so high. 2) Workers often overestimate their own worth within a company or how easily they can be replaced. It's likely that all the people leaving saying Twitter is going to majorly break soon won't…
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Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#64I truly hope all the top tier engineers who kept it going leave and it all goes bankrupt and Elon can have his tarnished brand lol. There are multiple other avenues on social media for the same functions as Twitter, maybe a little less conducive but they will do the job.
Yeah even at a company with as relatively stable a product as twitter, there are so many processes that go on internally that certainly need someone who knows how to operate them. Another commenter mentioned dead-man's switches, but you don't even need explicit switches, especially if an entire team leaves. There will be parts of twitters infra that no one even knows how to deploy, /even if/ it was fully automated. A…
Especially considering they use a lot of stuff no one else uses, like Pelikan. They already fired the main dev, who knows if there's an ops team left. How do you even hire for that? It's hard enough finding people who can run Kafka lol
Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#65I think there are going to be two levels of shock: 1) Never give people an ultimatum. It basically never works in your favor. That was such a dumb thing by Elon and his team. I don't think Elon expected the numbers to be so high. 2) Workers often overestimate their own worth within a company or how easily they can be replaced. It's likely that all the people leaving saying Twitter is going to majorly break soon won't…
I don't think anything like this has ever happened before to a system with this scale, so who can say? But just as an engineer at another company that probably has a vaguely similar architecture it's certainly in a place of extreme risk. It just depends on if they can get people in place to hold together the critical services. Also things are much more likely to break it they start trying to change things, it will ta…
I have a hunch that over Thanksgiving the increased traffic will break something, and there will be nobody around to fix it, so more stuff will break. I have a hunch that most of SRE people that would normally be watching the metrics ready to jump on anything starting to look dicey are gone.
Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#66Makes sense. I'm not sure there's a job I wouldn't leave for 3 months free money. Especially if I was confident of my talent and abilities as an ex-Twitter engineer.
Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, that was when he was useful enough to outweigh his jackassery. And hey, maybe if he kills twitter, he'll still be doing humanity a service.
people will just flee to other social media. Twitter dying changes nothing
N social networks with M/N people each are not remotely the same as a single network with M people.
Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#68I suspect this works at Tesla and SpaceX because working on rockets and EVs is intrinsically cool and motivating for nerds, in contrast to whatever kind of company Twitter is.
But I don’t understand why everyone is so dour. Either Musk figured out how to fix Twitter, or we no longer have to deal with Twitter. Win win.
Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
#69If you are somewhat important at Twitter (part of keeping the lights on, not new features) you would do well to take the severance and look else where. If Elon comes knocking get a huge upfront non-refundable signing bonus and dictate 'softcore' terms for re-employment. Better if you can find out who else is being called back and then you can all sort of work together to get better terms (create a very high floor).
Re: 100s of Twitter employees leaving after Musk's 'extremely hardcore' work demands
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Please don't call names on HN and especially please don't do psychiatric name-calling.
You may not owe billionaire CEOs who you feel are psychopathic better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.