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Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by rufus_foreman »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #80
xapata wrote: post #59

> Nothing has ever angered me more than ... I understand that hyperbolic expressions have some rhetorical value, but I seem to be encountering them more frequently over time, and I don't think the value has changed over time.

Why do you think it's hyperbolic? If I had to go through this, I think it would become the most angering experience I've had. I've have bureaucratic problems but nothing approaching this, and no personal conflict has ever gotten that bad.

>> I've have bureaucratic problems but nothing approaching this, and no personal conflict has ever gotten that bad

I agree with the OP. You sweet summer child.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by majkinetor »

juliushuijnk wrote: post #281

I was also thinking I was talking to an AI after a number of emails, so eventually I tested it out: > I wish to speak to a human. If you are human and are allowed to write anything, please use the word "cow" in your reply. Response: > We appreciate you getting back to us and we apologize for any inconvenience this is causing you. Yes, you are communicating to a human being and per your request, please see the word "c…

I really much doubt humans write and talk like that. This is probably AI again and your query wasn't "clever" enough IMO.

Perhaps introduce some typo that will AI take on literary and human wont...

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by Dylan16807 »

rufus_foreman wrote: post #331
Dylan16807 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think it's hyperbolic? If I had to go through this, I think it would become the most angering experience I've had. I've have bureaucratic problems but nothing approaching this, and no personal conflict has ever gotten that bad.

>> I've have bureaucratic problems but nothing approaching this, and no personal conflict has ever gotten that bad I agree with the OP. You sweet summer child.

I think calling me a sweet summer child means you're agreeing with me because that means it wouldn't be hyperbole if I said it.

More seriously though, google is threatening severe damage to someone's professional livelihood here. It's not the biggest threat but it's in the top ten percent. And google is one of the most frustrating entities to deal with period. Combine those and you have a real contender.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by bogwog »

robertlagrant wrote: post #327
bogwog wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By “tapping a screen a couple of times” you’re referring to the process of enabling side-loading on Android? Because if you don’t think that’s a problem, then you must be living in a bubble surrounded by techies. Imagine you’re trying to start a competing app store. What does user acquisition look like for you on Android? Besides the regular ad spending to promote your app, you also need to figure out a way to guide…

I have the consumer choice to buy any compatible car battery I want. That doesn't mean it's easy to install. Unless I'm living in an ivory tower with people who find app stores easier to install than car batteries. Ease of installation (which, again, at least in my rarefied atmosphere of people who find tapping a screen under 10 times [0] easier than, say, going and buying a compatible battery, remove the old one, in…

you right android good apple bad

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by xapata »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #80
xapata wrote: post #59

> Nothing has ever angered me more than ... I understand that hyperbolic expressions have some rhetorical value, but I seem to be encountering them more frequently over time, and I don't think the value has changed over time.

Why do you think it's hyperbolic? If I had to go through this, I think it would become the most angering experience I've had. I've have bureaucratic problems but nothing approaching this, and no personal conflict has ever gotten that bad.

When I read the phrase yesterday (or the day before?), my first thought was of historically significant atrocities. The Holocaust is an easy example. My second thought was of the various contemporary disasters. I suppose it's reasonable for one to think more about personal conflicts on a daily basis, but such a superlative as "nothing has ever angered me more" seems begging for a more terrible comparison.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by Dylan16807 »

xapata wrote: post #335
Dylan16807 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think it's hyperbolic? If I had to go through this, I think it would become the most angering experience I've had. I've have bureaucratic problems but nothing approaching this, and no personal conflict has ever gotten that bad.

When I read the phrase yesterday (or the day before?), my first thought was of historically significant atrocities. The Holocaust is an easy example. My second thought was of the various contemporary disasters. I suppose it's reasonable for one to think more about personal conflicts on a daily basis, but such a superlative as "nothing has ever angered me more" seems begging for a more terrible comparison.

Do those make you actively deeply angry? If so I don't know how you have the energy for that. My reaction is closer to sadness in addition to taking a very different shape.

There's a big difference between how bad something is and how much it causes personal anger. And most people in the world haven't faced disasters like those. So I don't think it's begging for that comparison.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by 6510 »

_yb2s wrote: post #330
onli wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the service worker here (Anthony) has the power to approve the app, he is just incompetent or hostile to the author. The anger is warranted (though the statements are harmless), this is targeted sabotage. Maybe time to sue?

Not sabotage, just incompetence. Anthony is probably overworked, and has seconds to approve or reject an app. He may also not be a native english speaker, and be unsure about the meaning of the words used in this app. Sure, he has every "right" to be angry, but that strategy will only make things worse.

Waiting a bit longer for a review seems preferable?

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by xapata »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #337
xapata wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I read the phrase yesterday (or the day before?), my first thought was of historically significant atrocities. The Holocaust is an easy example. My second thought was of the various contemporary disasters. I suppose it's reasonable for one to think more about personal conflicts on a daily basis, but such a superlative as "nothing has ever angered me more" seems begging for a more terrible comparison.

Do those make you actively deeply angry? If so I don't know how you have the energy for that. My reaction is closer to sadness in addition to taking a very different shape. There's a big difference between how bad something is and how much it causes personal anger. And most people in the world haven't faced disasters like those. So I don't think it's begging for that comparison.

> Do those make you actively deeply angry?

On occasion, yes.

> I don't know how you have the energy for that.

My wife asks me the same thing.

> [M]ost people in the world haven't faced disasters like those.

I think we are facing them. My daughter will live to see a dramatically different climate than my parents experienced.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Post by iFreilicht »

tluyben2 wrote: post #282
fleddr wrote: post #119

And this is why we need to cherish the web. I see no reason why a yoga app can't be done on the web. I do know that apps tend to convert better, if only we could bridge that gap. It's in particular troubling how much of this madness we've internalized to just accept. The idea that you need to resubmit a 100 apps because Google decided you need to target a different internal version number is insane. It would be very…

> And this is why we need to cherish the web. We implement our apps with an offline mode which offers everything, but because you have to manually bookmark them on your phone home page, it is too much to ask for users and they forget. So they download the app from a store. If we had something that an online app can indicate it has a fully offline mode for the browser to pick up, it could ask ‘download for offline and…

Progressive Web Apps are exactly what you're asking for, no?
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