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Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by JaredLee »

femboy wrote: post #59
wincy wrote: post #38

So if I’m an American company and have no offices in Europe and ignore GDPR for my free customers, what happens? Will I get arrested by the Polizei when I land in Berlin? Will the US force me to pay these fines?

Yes, the European Commission will collaborate with international governments to impose fines.

No, they will not. If you're a company with a substantial enough userbase in their country to be investigated under their regulations, then failing to follow them and/or ignoring fines will most likely result in them preventing your services from being accessed in their country.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by ehutch79 »

baxtr wrote: post #261
ehutch79 wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Revenue is not profit. You need to subtract expenses and whatnot.

That’s right. But for GDPR no one cares about profits. They need to be fined on revenue. Otherwise non-profit making companies could do any privacy BS and not be fined.

Good point.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by tpxl »

debugnik wrote: post #110
tpxl wrote: post #6

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> does Alt-F4 not do the right thing on Windows Alt-F4 closes the _window_, not the application. If the application can 'survive' without a window, not exiting the application is the correct behaviour.

Except for Discord, which actually closes the entire application on Alt-F4 instead of just the window.

Alt-F4 closes the window for me on Discord, not the app. There's a setting for that I suppose.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by lzooz »

Fnoord wrote: post #217
lzooz wrote: post #127

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I agree with you in principle and I think that the EU is basically extorting American companies, but in your example all that information is stored in your phone, while in this case the information is stored in Discord's servers.

American companies are free to not do business within the EU. If they do, they must comply with the law. Same with USA, China, Russia, etc.

What about users from the EU who want to use those services despite the EU not liking them? Fuck them, right?

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by can16358p »

mopsi wrote: post #210
2pEXgD0fZ5cF wrote: post #166

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> against its own culture Could you elaborate what that culture is supposed to be exactly, and why it should require us to side with Discord here?

Probably means moralless pursuit of the almighty dollar. There seems to be a sizable chunk of hustlers on HN, who have some tiny dropshipping, newsletter or spam business that depends on invasive tracking, dark patterns and other amoral behavior, and they get scared and feel existentially threatened every time GDPR is brought up. It seems to be the same group of people who believe that the Internet would die without…

I hate all the things you've listed as much as you do, and never did any of them.

Stay delusional.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by can16358p »

madmoose wrote: post #141
can16358p wrote: post #87

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So you're saying that the more people disagree with you, the more entrenched you become in your position? That doesn't sound like a healthy way to form opinions.

The more people I see who disagree with me on this topic, the more I'm concerned about the future of tech world.

It's not like I like red color and you like blue and we disagree. We're talking about a fundamental regulation hurting innovation here. Sure, big tech shouldn't track our every move and they should reasonably protect our data, yet we're the ones giving our data (which we don't have to) in the first place and the way GDPR is currently implemented like fining ridiculous amounts for ridiculous made up reasons, or forcing a ridiculous amount of cookie accept boxes virtually on every website on Earth is not the way to go.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by [deleted] »

theCrowing wrote: post #89

Sorry but the points are totally valid. If you delete your account your messages are still available with a userid that if someone has it can be traced back to you. They also don't delete files or pictures you uploaded alone for this they should get fined.

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Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by 0xffff2 »

pjc50 wrote: post #230
inductive_magic wrote: post #5

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>Interesting this is considered [Microsoft] Discord's fault and not Microsoft Windows. Probably because Discord implements the button, no? They configure what happens when you press "X", so their configuration is in violation, not the platform.

This whole thing is making my head ache. Pressing X or Alt-F4 sends WM_CLOSE to the window. By default this is converted to WM_DESTROY and closes the window. By default, an application with no more windows open will exit. It's quite normal for applications to intercept WM_CLOSE, for example with a modal dialog of "Do you want to save your files?". Over the past few years it has also become common for applications, in…

>Over the past few years it has also become common for applications, including Microsoft Teams, to interpret "all windows closed" as "minimise to Systray".

More like the past few decades. Seriously, this has been a thing (usually configurable in app settings, and common in many long-running applications like messengers and music players) for as long as I can remember.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by ttyyzz »

ttyyzz wrote: post #22
tpxl wrote: post #6

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> does Alt-F4 not do the right thing on Windows Alt-F4 closes the _window_, not the application. If the application can 'survive' without a window, not exiting the application is the correct behaviour.

Alt+F4 kills the process.

guys i dont know why im getting downvoted - on my windows 10 machine, newest discord version -> alt+f4 kills the process and x-ing the app does not.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by lightedman »

crtasm wrote: post #234
lightedman wrote: post #223

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Closing the window frees up some video RAM, as you are no longer processing and displaying video streams from the voice/video chat. Minimizing the window keeps that RAM in active use.

Then that's also an issue that Discord should work on.

The majority of that issue IIRC lies upon the Microsoft Window Manager, and if true, not much Discord can do about that.
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