IN MICE link to full paper: https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/82/22/4164/710131...
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Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
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Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#22I know of so many life-long runners that have gotten or even died from cancer. So not sure what to say otherwise but this paper is wrong and needs to be challanged.
Many non-life-long runners die from cancer too.
The paper suggests you need to be at 80-85% max effort to get maximum benefit, the runners I know tend to concentrate on distance and the social aspect (so are running at an effort where they can sustain a conversation), rather than getting to the end of the run as quickly as possible.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
For 80-85% of maximum pulse rate... If your lungs are burning and you're about to collapse after 30 seconds of activity the intensity is about right. Do 30 seconds high intensity, then 90 seconds low intensity (don't sit down or stand still), repeat 8 times. Rowing and sprinting works really well.
Or buy one 30lb kettle bell. No running shoes, low cost, no finding space in your home, no buyer's remorse. A swing with good form works your entire body. 100 reps once or twice a day literally takes 2-4 minutes. Do it after hitting start on the microwave.
An exercise that takes 2-4 minutes is not the same as a HIIT exercise where you exhaust yourself in 30 seconds.
Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#24I know of so many life-long runners that have gotten or even died from cancer. So not sure what to say otherwise but this paper is wrong and needs to be challanged.
Extremely weird take.
1) the paper refers to high intensity activity like sprinting which which many lifelong runners don't do.
2) your personal experience is a random sample which is probably not representative.
Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#25IN MICE link to full paper: https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/82/22/4164/710131...
I've seen this bait-and-switch so much that my brain often appends "in mice" automatically. But this study looks at cancer in both humans and mice.
Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#26Unless you live in an area with high air pollution.
Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#27IN MICE link to full paper: https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/82/22/4164/710131...
From the abstract: Epidemiologic data from a 20-year prospective study of a large human cohort of initially cancer-free participants revealed that exercise prior to cancer initiation had a modest impact on cancer incidence in low metastatic stages but significantly reduced the likelihood of highly metastatic cancer. Data was gathered from a large cohort via questionnaire. Looks like the study then used responses to c…
The chief result being reported here is in the mouse model, it's not 100-some people filling out a questionnaire that got them on the cover of the journal.
Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or buy one 30lb kettle bell. No running shoes, low cost, no finding space in your home, no buyer's remorse. A swing with good form works your entire body. 100 reps once or twice a day literally takes 2-4 minutes. Do it after hitting start on the microwave.
An exercise that takes 2-4 minutes is not the same as a HIIT exercise where you exhaust yourself in 30 seconds.
Swing it faster.
Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#29IN MICE link to full paper: https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/82/22/4164/710131...
I've seen this bait-and-switch so much that my brain often appends "in mice" automatically. But this study looks at cancer in both humans and mice.
There's an entire Twitter devoted to this, https://twitter.com/justsaysinmice
From what I understand after reading the article, it reports three things:
* big fancy result in mice
* measurements of biochemical changes due to exercise in a few humans
* self-reported questionnaire from a population of ~3000 tracked over 20 years, some of whom got cancer
Re: Aerobic exercise can reduce the risk of metastatic cancer in mice: study
#30Wouldn't be much easier just restrict sugar/glucose consumption, so you don't need to burn it by exercise? I feel this is trying to solve consequences instead of the cause, if I read the article correctly.
No, that's not about sugar. The body needs glucose to function. It is produced from carbs (and other sources) in your food.