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Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by Joeri »

productman1 wrote: post #43
jwr wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very similar path to the one that Skitch and Dropbox took. In each case, instead of perfecting and maintaining a really good app, business pressures caused them to pursue growth at all costs. This is a common problem these days.

Once companies hire Product Managers, it is usually downhill from there in 80% of cases. The problem is that the PMs are incentivized to deliver features, even if that is not the right thing to do. See: Postman.

Yeah I switched from postman to VS code’s REST client addon because it does less but it does enough. Postman is this really complicated and cumbersome thing now, just deeply unpleasant to use.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by FearlessNebula »

canadiantim wrote: post #23
baby wrote: post #20

Honestly Apple Notes works really well. It doesn't have much features, but its simplicity should be the baseline of any note taking app

How do you get your notes out of apple notes though? They're like some sort of covetous demon who won't let your notes go once it consumes them. I literally went to the apple notes discord once and asked them directly and their response was basically "Apple Notes isn't design to be used for more than 100 notes"... so be very very careful about choosing to use Apple Notes cause you may never get your notes out of ther…

Wait… Apple is providing support via Discord now?

Anyways, if you have access to a Mac you can sync your notes via iCloud and then on Mac you can easily access the SQLite DB containing the notes. If you can figure out the schema it would be easy to write a tool to export this automatically. I’d guess someone has already built such a tool.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by FearlessNebula »

halpmeh wrote: post #26
canadiantim wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get your notes out of apple notes though? They're like some sort of covetous demon who won't let your notes go once it consumes them. I literally went to the apple notes discord once and asked them directly and their response was basically "Apple Notes isn't design to be used for more than 100 notes"... so be very very careful about choosing to use Apple Notes cause you may never get your notes out of ther…

Where exactly are my notes supposed to be going?

Many options, should you decide to leave the Apple ecosystem

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by theCrowing »

AwaAwa wrote: post #47
SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

What were the issues you found on Joplin that stopped you? I use it and it does what it does, which is saving/sorting/tagging notes you want to keep forever and a year. The UX is not the best, but functional. Which is my biggest gripe with it.

the generated filenames

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by foobarian »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #40

I find this an interesting reflection of an org I used to work for. Originally successful product allowed to stagnate over the course of decades with all the energy being sucked up by new shiny bolt-ons while the core business need and core product is never re-imagined to fit in with modern industry trends. On reflection it always looks kinda daft that this can end up happening but I think (at least in my case) its e…

How would you design the org to avoid this? You basically need to disband the team once the product is done. How do game studios manage it?

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by JohnTHaller »

Evernote always felt like a product that was wasting its potential. Years ago I approached them about doing a portable version for PortableApps.com, with us doing the portablization for free. They refused and said they were happy with their proprietary portable version that only worked within Ceedo (a closed source portable virtualization platform that was fee-based for most use cases). Ceedo never gained traction and was discontinued.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by bsnnkv »

Over the years I've realized that I don't actually care for or need the "note taking" part of applications like these.

What I need is a textual data store that can be efficiently and effectively indexed, searched and (automatically) tagged, and for the ability to quickly filter streams and feeds of targeted information from that data store (with the option to share them publicly via RSS - my public feeds are in my profile for the curious).

It needs to be able to contain the 3 primary text-based sources of information I consume (with all of the table-stakes additional metadata): highlights from webpages, internet commentary, and highlights from eBooks.

Nobody seemed interested in making this so I just made it myself and I've been using it for the last 2 years very happily.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by cyberpunk »

SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

I can highly recommend logseq [0]. It's become something like my external brain, writes markdown files I sync between devices (mac, ipad, phone, linux (although no linux arm last time I checked)) via git (auto commits to a repo). It's superb.

0: https://logseq.com/

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by dmd »

canadiantim wrote: post #23
baby wrote: post #20

Honestly Apple Notes works really well. It doesn't have much features, but its simplicity should be the baseline of any note taking app

How do you get your notes out of apple notes though? They're like some sort of covetous demon who won't let your notes go once it consumes them. I literally went to the apple notes discord once and asked them directly and their response was basically "Apple Notes isn't design to be used for more than 100 notes"... so be very very careful about choosing to use Apple Notes cause you may never get your notes out of ther…

I use this https://github.com/threeplanetssoftware/apple_cloud_notes_pa... and it works extremely well.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by mahathu »

SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #42
mahathu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love, love LOVE TickTick. It is a note-taking and todo list app and everything is so frictionless like I've never seen before. Also supports markdown notes. I'm only concerned that it looks like a Chinese Todoist clone. The about page doesn't is suspiciously elusive.

Would you mind sharing url? Hard to find with all the urls coming from TikTok. :D

Yes exactly, my bad, I meant TickTick!
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