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Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by gbighin »

SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

I feel you, I tried all of the apps you mention and then some more. I am currently using Obsidian since it uses a simple, well-defined open format, but I am not enjoying a lot... Also it seems like the iPhone mobile app needs 30 seconds to sync every time I open it, regardless if there are updated files or not...

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by SUPERSLEDZ »

mahathu wrote: post #34
SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

I love, love LOVE TickTick. It is a note-taking and todo list app and everything is so frictionless like I've never seen before. Also supports markdown notes. I'm only concerned that it looks like a Chinese Todoist clone. The about page doesn't is suspiciously elusive.

Would you mind sharing url? Hard to find with all the urls coming from TikTok. :D

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by productman1 »

jwr wrote: post #19
rcarmo wrote: post #17

It failed because it turned the app into bloat and killed multi-device syncing. Most of the decisions made regarding product features were user-hostile not just to the free tier, but also to paying users who did not want the "features" they kept pushing out.

This is a very similar path to the one that Skitch and Dropbox took. In each case, instead of perfecting and maintaining a really good app, business pressures caused them to pursue growth at all costs. This is a common problem these days.

Once companies hire Product Managers, it is usually downhill from there in 80% of cases.

The problem is that the PMs are incentivized to deliver features, even if that is not the right thing to do.

See: Postman.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by edrxty »

SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

I use Joplin daily and it's great for me. I have it set up with encrypted sync to fastmail storage via WebDAV and since I got that working I've had zero issues across the 3-4 devices I use it on.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by SUPERSLEDZ »

arcbyte wrote: post #39
SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

What kind of notes do you take? I've used OneNote for like 12 years now I think and I love it. It's where my school notes are and every note I've taken in my career since then. My personal diaries and life notes. Everything is in it. I've been looking at Obsidian as well because I like the idea of self hosting but aside from that I've never seen a reason to leave. So back to my question, what kind of notes do you tak…

It's general notes. Some of them are TODOs, sometimes screenshots with notes, few with basic tables.

Nothing extraordinary.

I absolutely hate Onenote due to how it looks and forcing you to place a note on your note page to make a note :D

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by perplex »

SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

I use bear.app and love the simplicity but is versatile enough to all my uses cases. It only runs on Apple platforms, so maybe a deal breaker. It seems similar to Obsidian, so maybe another deal breaker. It syncs via CloudKit and for what it's worth, the devs have shared that they are working on a web app version that would presumably use CloudKit Web Services.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by AwaAwa »

SUPERSLEDZ wrote: post #27

Still looking for viable replacement: * Joplin had some issues I've checked year ago. * Apple notes while I have iPhone there's no Windows app. * OneNote is just trully horrendous app. * Obsidian just can't convince myself. I'm forcing myself to use it work, while it works, it's not something I enjoy doing. * Notion is odd, everything is a block and sometimes formatting is just meh... * Google keep is just simple not…

What were the issues you found on Joplin that stopped you? I use it and it does what it does, which is saving/sorting/tagging notes you want to keep forever and a year. The UX is not the best, but functional. Which is my biggest gripe with it.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by happytoexplain »

macspoofing wrote: post #9

Honestly, I don’t know what Evernote Corp. did during the last 10+ years of Evernote development. The feature set feels about the same.

If only apps stayed the same over ten years. That would be a dream come true. Evernote got much slower and buggier in those ten years.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by foobarian »

halpmeh wrote: post #26
canadiantim wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get your notes out of apple notes though? They're like some sort of covetous demon who won't let your notes go once it consumes them. I literally went to the apple notes discord once and asked them directly and their response was basically "Apple Notes isn't design to be used for more than 100 notes"... so be very very careful about choosing to use Apple Notes cause you may never get your notes out of ther…

Where exactly are my notes supposed to be going?

A local filesystem directory with text files would be a good start.

Re: Why Evernote failed to realize its potential (2021)

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Post by egypturnash »

macspoofing wrote: post #9

Honestly, I don’t know what Evernote Corp. did during the last 10+ years of Evernote development. The feature set feels about the same.

They rewrote it from scratch as a sluggish web app, failed to address issues that have been annoyances since day 1, piled on dubious new features that just made it harder to open the damn thing up and write down the idea that just hit you, or to open up the note you're looking for at this very instant.
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