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Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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I'm very skeptical about their numbers. Some time in 2021 there was a story about COVID vaccines and heart issues here on HN. The comments filled up with people saying that ever since they'd got their shots they were experiencing new heart-related symptoms they'd never had previously like permanently racing heartbeats, palpitations/fluttering, inability to do exercise and more. Unfortunately I'm not sure how to re-fi…

Do you have any evidence

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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> The obvious explanation for other country's vaccine recommendations is based in data. COVID kills the elderly (75+) who are more likely to be battling multiple negative health conditions beyond COVID. That something so obvious was enough to get you labeled a conspiracy theorist and banned off all major social media for close to two years has set back trust in science by decades.

The assumption that this isn't accounted for in basic analysis is pretty far-fetched.

Assuming that the people in charge are able to do basic analysis is pretty far fetched.

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>Obamacare, which was forced upon us The ACA individual mandate penalty was eliminated in 2017.

Hmm, that appears to be true. Then why does my tax person still require me to submit the paper that shows I had insurance for the whole year?

If you pay premiums out of pocket, it can count towards a potential deduction (medical expenses above 7.5% of your AGI are tax-deductible); that form is your evidence.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Norway recommends booster doses for 65+ [0], Denmark for 50+ [1], Australia for 50+ [2], Sweeden for 65+ [3], Finland for 65+ [4]. United States recommends booster does for 5+ [5]. "The (Florida) State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old." [6] [0] https://www.fhi.no/en/id/vaccines/coronavirus-immunisation-p... [1] https://www.sst.dk/en/English/Corona-eng/Va…

Worth noting, the Florida Surgeon General's opinion was lambasted in the mainstream media as him embracing conspiracy theories (and there is some interesting added context there as to why they believe so). Which... maybe two things are true at once. Perhaps he was - but also, perhaps his stance is not that radical. Radical compared to most Surgeon Generals in the United States; but on an international level? https://…

Florida Surgeon General CV https://www.uclahealth.org/sites/default/files/documents/Jos...

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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There are also many places in the US where influenza shots aren't contractual, they're law, particularly for those in schools, long-term care facilities, and healthcare settings. And vaccine mandates have hundreds of years of precedent in the US. It ain't the mandates that are new, it's the political climate.

Same principle applies, if you don't like the law, don't join that career. Very different from mandates being applied to existing jobs previously not subject to mandates. > It ain't the mandates that are new. The CDC (re)definition of vaccine is new. Also the redefinition of pandemic around 2010.

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Yes. People just don't understand what their plan's deductibles mean, and the protections the ACA offers. The parent poster likely benefits from the following items on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act : > Annual and lifetime coverage caps on essential benefits were banned. > Insurers are forbidden from dropping policyholders when they become ill. > All policies must provide an annual maximum out-of-p…

The issue is that deductibles used to be 1/10 as much before the ACA. And you had the option to buy "emergency only" coverage, which had a high deductible, but a much cheaper premium. These days, because of the ACA all plans are "emergency only", except without the lower premium.

> The issue is that deductibles used to be 1/10 as much before the ACA. And you had the option to buy "emergency only" coverage, which had a high deductible, but a much cheaper premium.

They were cheap for a reason. They're back in force, if you want to grab one. I don't advise it. https://www.propublica.org/article/junk-insurance

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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This is anecdotal, and I still plan to get the latest booster soon, but I have had pain in my left chest since the first covid vaccine. I went to a doctor who ran an EKG but they said everything was functioning correctly. Maybe someone knows if I should get a second opinion? I can no longer sleep on my left side since then as it causes the pain to increase, so I don't believe it is related to myocarditis.

Not really answering your question, but after one of the boosters I had ~1 month of abnormal heartbeat and was hospitalized. My chest also felt uneasy, somewhat painful, and I could feel my heart double beating irregularly. Best answer I got was that the vaccine caused inflammation in my heart which caused that issue. Luckily it has since cleared up but I occasionally feel weird feeling in my chest. Could also be stress/anxiety

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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There are also many places in the US where influenza shots aren't contractual, they're law, particularly for those in schools, long-term care facilities, and healthcare settings. And vaccine mandates have hundreds of years of precedent in the US. It ain't the mandates that are new, it's the political climate.

Same principle applies, if you don't like the law, don't join that career. Very different from mandates being applied to existing jobs previously not subject to mandates. > It ain't the mandates that are new. The CDC (re)definition of vaccine is new. Also the redefinition of pandemic around 2010.

These mandates aren't only occupational. You may be required by law to be vaccinated to attend school in some places, or to be in certain care facilities.

And the CDC wrote zero of these laws. The CDC's rephrasing of an FAQ article on their website may be a good starter for a right wing conspiracy theory article, but it has no bearing on this topic.

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Why is that the case? Moderna is good for Americans under 30 but not Canadians under 30?

Could it be because lifestyle factors in the US put more u30 at risk of dying from Covid than in Canada? Or that the most vulnerable populations in Canada still have access to healthcare if they do need a ventilator? Genuinely hypothesizing, I am not sure of the answer but that’s what came to mind when I read your question.

Access to ventilators or lack thereof has no significant impact on death rates. Very few patients are put on ventilators now since those are considered salvage therapy only used when all else has failed. The initial focus on ventilators early in the pandemic was misguided and not based on any reliable evidence.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

#590

The same people who wouldn't be charitable with, say, Exxon, are bending over backwards to defend global pharmaceuticals. Exxon has an interest in minimizing (disregarding) the harmful effects of their products and same goes for Pfizer & friends who's got every govt funneling money to them seemingly without limit.

The mRNA vaccines were developed by BioNTech and Moderna, two small and relatively new companies specializing in that technology. BioNTech chose to partner with Pfizer to scale their vaccine production. This may have had some positive impact on the Pfizer brand. In contrast, Moderna chose to take investment and scale their own production. In either case, people are taking the vaccines because of the physical benefits…

> In either case, people are taking the vaccines because of the physical benefits the vaccines provide, not because of how they feel about the corporate history of the companies producing them.

I'm sure there's a cohort of people that fit your description, but a whole lot of people took it because they were forced to. I think at this point it's safe to say that some others took it willingly but were lied to and told it would make others safe when that was never tested before it was repeated thousands of times, and turns out to be completely false.

In all of these cases however it was not informed consent.

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