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Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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I would love to hear from Twitter engineers who survived layoffs and aren't actively looking for other jobs right now. What is going on in your head? Are you okay with all the changes Musk is making? Did he fire the "right" people? Do you think you will have stable employment and a reasonable work environment for the next 1-3 years?

If they're getting good stock awards to stay, and if they think they can turn Twitter around, then there's a good chance they can make a lot of money. Now that Twitter is private the stock is going to be a lot less volatile. Work hard. Acquire users. Enter new markets. Valuation improves (once or twice a year). Cash out during a purchase offer. If I were Elon, I'd be drowning the remaining loyal employees with RSUs.

I might be misunderstanding, but how would stock awards work if the company is now private?

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

#62
post #40

After seeing Elon mixing up all async services that happen in backend with Android client making as many requests, I wonder if I thought this guy is smart because I know nothing about building cars or launching space rockets. Edit: "guy is smart" probably should be "guy is technically competent". I am sure Elon is smart, I think he is being Phony while acting technically competent in every area.

The obligatory Gell-Mann Amnesia reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmn...

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

#63
post #54

The context here is that the engineer in question challenged Musk's (public) claims about why Twitter is so slow (there's followup tweets in the thread with more detail): https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/15919022854034186... So Musk then fired him with a Tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592186302379982849

Hope the thread is archived somewhere, because these tweets aren't going to stay up for very long. The "free speech absolutist" will see to that.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

#64
post #56

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If they're getting good stock awards to stay, and if they think they can turn Twitter around, then there's a good chance they can make a lot of money. Now that Twitter is private the stock is going to be a lot less volatile. Work hard. Acquire users. Enter new markets. Valuation improves (once or twice a year). Cash out during a purchase offer. If I were Elon, I'd be drowning the remaining loyal employees with RSUs.

Elon literally just said that bankruptcy is a possibility for twitter in the near future. What are these RSUs going to be worth exactly? And how are they going to cash them out?

You can google and see Elon sends the motivational 'bankruptcy' email to all his companies every so often.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

#65
post #29

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Eh, normally I'd agree, but let's not pretend this is a normal situation. If you parachute into a company as CEO and start publicly insulting all of the professional work that the employees (half of whom he just fired) have done, you can't expect them not to defend themselves and their (former) colleagues. This seems to be the fireable shitpost: https://twitter.com/sachee/status/1591857120768843776

Her pinned Tweet is "kiss my ass elon" from July 8.

True, I didn't see that. Still, he wasn't her boss at the time, that was the day he filed the first termination letter of his attempt to buy twitter, so it looked like he never would be. (I'm assuming she pinned it after he fired her, but I'm not sure.)

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000110465922...

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

#66

Looks like Elon tries to act like a chief architect of Twitter[1] even though he still seems to confuse that 1000 RPCs are serially sent[2] from the app[3]? Why don't we do a public technical design interview session for Elon to see if he is technically competent enough for architecting one of the most famous social network? :sigh: [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800 [2] https://twitter.com/el…

Related to this discussion, Elon made a tweet saying there are over 1200 microservices. Are there any tech talks or explanation videos showing a rough outline of what all these microservices do or how they're broken up? It's difficult to wrap my head around that amount.

I can’t speak to Twitter specifically, but Monzo are a company somewhat famous for their thousands of microservices which they’ve written about, so that might provide some insight to how a company could use so many: https://monzo.com/blog/2022/06/24/redefining-our-microservic...

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

#67

He fired another one: https://twitter.com/sachee/status/1592308273071681536?s=46&t... If he fires all the engineers with a bad attitude it’ll just be the product managers left.

Amazing stuff. I thought I knew how to risk my career just for the sake of comedy, this lass shows that she's varsity and I'm not even cleaning the jv bench

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

#68
post #61

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If they're getting good stock awards to stay, and if they think they can turn Twitter around, then there's a good chance they can make a lot of money. Now that Twitter is private the stock is going to be a lot less volatile. Work hard. Acquire users. Enter new markets. Valuation improves (once or twice a year). Cash out during a purchase offer. If I were Elon, I'd be drowning the remaining loyal employees with RSUs.

I might be misunderstanding, but how would stock awards work if the company is now private?

Private companies still are 'valuated' by external third parties regularly and hold 'liquidity events' where private investors buy a combination of stock from employees and from the company itself. Usually once or twice a year.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Do you do any real estate investment? I have this property in Brooklyn that I think you'd be really interested in

No, but plenty of SpaceX and Tesla employees became very wealthy sticking with Elon's ups and downs over the years. There's no doubt, executed correctly, Twitter could be a $200 billion company or more. It's really an opportunity for the employees to make that a reality. Elon (like his other companies) is going to put the engineers in control.

>It's really an opportunity for the employees to make that a reality. Elon (like his other companies) is going to put the engineers in control.

Please, consider investing in some real estate. I have a fantastic property in Brooklyn and it is a deal that you would not believe!

Or a less sarcastic response... You mean he'll put them in charge after firing them? Twitter literally barely works right now. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusions you have, but they are unreasonable on their face.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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post #25
post #15

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He HAS to be doing it on purpose, no-one is this retarded, especially when he just paid 44 BILLION for it. It's like the Emperors new clothes, we're all trying to see some kind of genius that just isn't there.

I'm starting to believe he decided it made more sense to mark down the investment to 0 and use the losses against his income for the next few years instead to pay the fine for pulling out of the deal.

Why would this ever be a smart move? Afaik he couldnt realistically dodge more taxes than he lit on fire at Twitter.
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