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We went from finding out pharma companies exploded the opiate epidemic to people getting tattoos of the brand of covid vaccine they got in a few years. Just because pharma companies make some useful products does not make them good actors. Of course Pfizer is going to say everybody needs another covid booster shot. Every time they convince people they need another it's billions in revenue.
do you have a link? google just leads to stuff about how long to wait with a tattoo after vaccination.
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#392Just so we now for next time: what is the proper way to express concerns about _this_ kind of things with enough nuance and moderation so as not to be automatically considered an anti-scientist tin foil hat ? What is the scientifically acceptable way to phrase "I'm not concerned about BigPharma planting 5G chips in my future children's eyeballs to turn them into communist ; but I'm very concerned about blind spots du…
> what is the proper way to express concerns about _this_ kind of things with enough nuance and moderation so as not to be automatically considered an anti-scientist tin foil hat ? The nuance is key. Frankly, I don't recall much in the way of nuance, I pretty much always saw concern about vaccines framed as a battle for freedom against a tyrannical political party.
Well, if you're scared of something, and it becomes mandatory, even when the decision comes from the most democratically elected government, you'll feel attacked.
Which raises a lot of questions (is "being scared" enough of a justification for refusing a law ? On the other hands, do democraticaly elected officials automatically get the right do decide what people should be "scared" about, without having any more evidence than anyone else - given that the only thing that can give evidence is time, time, and more time ?)
Questions that, unfortunately, had to be answered hastly and withouth much concerns for the unlucky ones - which, to be honest, is pretty much the theme of history, and we have been among the lucky one until now, so maybe we don't have that much to complain about.
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#393Just so we now for next time: what is the proper way to express concerns about _this_ kind of things with enough nuance and moderation so as not to be automatically considered an anti-scientist tin foil hat ? What is the scientifically acceptable way to phrase "I'm not concerned about BigPharma planting 5G chips in my future children's eyeballs to turn them into communist ; but I'm very concerned about blind spots du…
Eric Weinstein had a great segment on his Portal podcast about this very thing. I can't recall the interview (maybe with Balaji?), but if it comes to me I'll comment it. The gist was that he was talking about Covid and he observed that the guest had to spend an inordinate amount of time saying what he was not saying, to the point of being absurd. He had to constantly preface his comments with a long series of stateme…
watching eric go through his arc of disillusionment in public, despite all his sincerity and hopefulness and intelligence was really sobering for me.
A lot of us have this inner "oh if only I was a better speaker / smarter / worked on my persuasion skills ..."
It's just not how power works. It's not how society works. I get that now, and it was amazing anthropology to see it unfold.
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#394It is possible to get a COVID antibody test to determine whether you personally have sufficient remaining antibodies, or would benefit from another vaccine. In Barcelona, it is possible for under 100 euros.
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Except when the only thing that can inform a good decision is _time_ ; and when you can ask every trustworthy people you know, and they will simply not have a clue _yet_, because no one does and we're in the middle of the fog of war. But I suppose we all preferred pretending we knew _somethings_. How about we get some empathy for the people who just ended up on the many bad sides of the many bets ?
I'm not sure where the lack of empathy is above. I have/wrote about empathy for people whose doctors gave them advice that when followed will turn out, in retrospect, to be wrong. Maybe that will be mine; maybe that will be the others.
It was nowhere in your writing, sorry if that got confused.
I meant basically: "maybe give the few young people who suffered from some unforeseen side effects a break, and the right to keep their job without a next round of jabs" ? As far as I can tell, "having suffered side effects from the first 1/2/3 injection" is still not a valid exemption cause for vaccine mandates.
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#396My main question is if the vaccine side effects are just a much milder version of what would happen if you got COVID as opposed to something vaccine specific. If that's the case, then there would be more myocarditis issues from people not vaccinating. I haven't received a straight answer on this.
"Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021. [...] We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection."
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Ezekiel 4:12-15 applies: ’Eat the food as you would a loaf of barley bread; bake it in the sight of the people, using human excrement for fuel.’ ... I said, ‘Not so, Sovereign Lord! I have never defiled myself.’ ‘Very well,’ he said, ‘I will let you bake your bread over cow dung instead of human excrement.’ We could be dealing with worse shit, however shit remains shit.
Isn’t this a take on fuels for the sacrificial/temple fire?
No, it's not. The prophet is with the Jewish exiles in Babylon and is enacting the siege of Jerusalem. Food, water and fuel are running short in Jerusalem, and he plays out what it looks like.
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Not the OP but: Covid definitely isn't over, it's just that we've gotten better at treating it and people have decided that they are over it. It is still killing almost 2000 people a week in the US and it's very possible that we will see a huge spike in that as we get further into winter. the "next" booster is referring to the updated vaccine that more effectively targets the dominant "Omicron" variant.
> the "next" booster is referring to the updated vaccine that more effectively targets the dominant "Omicron" variant. Ah thanks for the context. I've only gotten the J&J vax (the worst one?) back in April of 2021, no boosters. I considered getting one but by then they were recommending boosters every few months and I decided to just "risk" it by not getting them? (I'm in my 30s and in good shape/health so don't feel…
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> the "next" booster is referring to the updated vaccine that more effectively targets the dominant "Omicron" variant. Ah thanks for the context. I've only gotten the J&J vax (the worst one?) back in April of 2021, no boosters. I considered getting one but by then they were recommending boosters every few months and I decided to just "risk" it by not getting them? (I'm in my 30s and in good shape/health so don't feel…
> I've only gotten the J&J vax (the worst one?) Back in those first few months I was keeping an eye on reports of side-effects, and J&J actually looked like the safest of the 4 available in the US. But it and AstraZeneca got absolutely vilified while any claims against Pfizer and Moderna got ignored as crazy conspiracies.
I've also only got the J&J, once, only because my employer was threatening me with termination if I didn't get vaccinated. They actually never followed through on that threat for those that held out. I wish I hadn't. Lesson learned, never again.