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Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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One of my kids, 15 at the time, was one of the reported cases of myocarditis. At the time of his hospitalization he was one out of 700 cases. He was in the hospital for two weeks. While under observation after his release, we have not seen indications of lasting damage. No way to know what the future holds. So far, so good. We are still not anti-vax at all. In fact, I might go for my next booster today. The one thing…

ACA isn't an insurance plan. What was or wasn't covered, and what your out-of-pocket costs were, have nothing to do with ACA. ACA forced you to pick a plan or face tax penalties, that's all, the rest is on the plan you chose. If you had chosen to not have insurance at all, you'd have paid way more that 10k and maybe even more than what you've put into your premiums already. I pay $1640 a month for full family coverage with a $600 deductible per person, per year, the second best plan I could find. I think you got a pretty bad plan at 2400/month with a 10k deductible.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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There's a lot of daylight between "recommendations for some higher age groups, no recommendation for lower age groups" and "recommendation against for lower age groups." The international recommendations cited above seem to be in the former category. Florida's recommendations seem to be in the latter. This might make them an outlier. Whether it makes them conspiracy theorists is another matter. If their position is s…

Is someone a conspiracy theorist if they conjecture about conspiracies or because they conspire with others to promote a theory?

The former. The latter would be a theory conspiracist.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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All of this was true pre-ACA, but worse (in my family's case, much worse; we went bankrupt over $90k in medical bills back in the 2000s). As it was, the thing barely passed.

Ezekiel 4:12-15 applies: ’Eat the food as you would a loaf of barley bread; bake it in the sight of the people, using human excrement for fuel.’ ... I said, ‘Not so, Sovereign Lord! I have never defiled myself.’ ‘Very well,’ he said, ‘I will let you bake your bread over cow dung instead of human excrement.’ We could be dealing with worse shit, however shit remains shit.

Isn’t this a take on fuels for the sacrificial/temple fire?

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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You're not angered that you were advised to give this to a 15 year old with no upside even after he was hospitalized for 2 weeks as a result?!

"No upside" is not accurate. Hospitalizations from COVID are quite rare in 15 year olds, but not remotely as rare as these cases of myocarditis.

What data do you base this on? According to QCovid.org, a 19yo old white male had annualized odds of hospitalization of less than 1 in 10,000 given the prevalence of the third and second COVID waves in the UK. That is less than the incidence of Myocarditis from the vaccine in that age group.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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In fairness UK conservative media have been reporting on it (Spectator, Telegraph). But it's being blamed on lockdowns and NHS collapse. That might be true; not all countries have excess deaths and it's a bit unclear to what extent the effect is real. It depends a lot on how you model the baseline.

Which countries do not have excess deaths 2020-20201? China, Australia, NZ might be on that list as they were pretty good about keeping the virus out but I'm curious if you know of any others. That's a wide claim, that not all countries have excess deaths

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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My main question is if the vaccine side effects are just a much milder version of what would happen if you got COVID as opposed to something vaccine specific.

If that's the case, then there would be more myocarditis issues from people not vaccinating. I haven't received a straight answer on this.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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My main question is if the vaccine side effects are just a much milder version of what would happen if you got COVID as opposed to something vaccine specific. If that's the case, then there would be more myocarditis issues from people not vaccinating. I haven't received a straight answer on this.

>...then there would be more myocarditis issues from people not vaccinating...

Yes.

Myocarditis seven times more likely with COVID-19 than vaccines

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/967801

Myocarditis Risk 17 Times Higher for Unvaccinated Patients Ages 12-30 Who Get COVID-19 Than COVID-Vaccinated Patients

https://www.epicresearch.org/articles/myocarditis-risk-17-ti...

Myocarditis risk significantly higher after COVID-19 infection vs. after a COVID-19 vaccine | American Heart Association

https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significant...

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Even the neighbouring country Canada stopped giving Moderna to people under 30 a year ago in September 2021. The CDC on the other hand is still continuing on. Clearly something is wrong in the US.

Money in politics is the problem in the US.

it's amusing to think that US politics is the only one with that problem.
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