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The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Post by keybored »

GuB-42 wrote: post #81
mrzool wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As multilingual user constantly switching between 3 languages, that's why I fully committed to the US_intl keyboard layout a while ago and ditched the abomination that is QWERTZ. Took a while to get used to, but overall it has been a very noticeable improvement. One layout to cover all languages, no more constant switching. Edit for clarity: I type "a to get ä and 'a to get à. If I want to type actual quotes followed…

It is fine as long as you don't have to user other people computers. I used a QWERTY keyboard in France for a while, but switching back and forth between AZERTY and QWERTY each time I went on someone else computer, which happened often, I had to switch, qnd it is qnnoying. You can learn to touch type but keep in mind that not all layouts are the same, you can bring your own keyboard, change the mapping, etc... There…

BYOK ;)

Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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mrzool wrote: post #18
9dev wrote: post #2

There's more of this implicit US American bias in modern computing than you would think after the whole ASCII/Unicode mess - I thought they finally learnt something about computers actually being used by other people back then, but no. One of my pet peeves: Badly implemented "press CTRL + / to search". Entering an actual slash, which requires e.g. SHIFT+7 on German keyboards, won't open the search box, but pressing t…

As multilingual user constantly switching between 3 languages, that's why I fully committed to the US_intl keyboard layout a while ago and ditched the abomination that is QWERTZ. Took a while to get used to, but overall it has been a very noticeable improvement. One layout to cover all languages, no more constant switching. Edit for clarity: I type "a to get ä and 'a to get à. If I want to type actual quotes followed…

I for some reason have a very low tolerance for dead keys. Two keypresses for one common letter becomes too much.

Thankfully I only need to write in two languages. With almost the same script.

Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Post by keybored »

rpadovani wrote: post #33
WA wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you type ä ö ü ß ?

Personally, I don't. I live in Muenchen, not München. When strictly needed, CTRL+C/CTRL+V from a Google search makes the trick. When writing email/docs, autocorrector for the win. Same thing in Italian: `e instead of è. Although, the German replacement is cleaner, I'd say.

I like that. Makes me wish I could just input all my text in Emacs which would make mapping such things to the “proper” sequence of strings very simple.

Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Post by keybored »

aendruk wrote: post #9
9dev wrote: post #2

There's more of this implicit US American bias in modern computing than you would think after the whole ASCII/Unicode mess - I thought they finally learnt something about computers actually being used by other people back then, but no. One of my pet peeves: Badly implemented "press CTRL + / to search". Entering an actual slash, which requires e.g. SHIFT+7 on German keyboards, won't open the search box, but pressing t…

My latest peeve here is the websites that try to filter out non-numeric key presses in form fields. You don’t know where my number keys are! Sometimes the only way to enter a number is to copy and paste it from a text editor.

Ooh, good point. I should test if that works with a French layout in our app :)

Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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dcminter wrote: post #45
9dev wrote: post #2

There's more of this implicit US American bias in modern computing than you would think after the whole ASCII/Unicode mess - I thought they finally learnt something about computers actually being used by other people back then, but no. One of my pet peeves: Badly implemented "press CTRL + / to search". Entering an actual slash, which requires e.g. SHIFT+7 on German keyboards, won't open the search box, but pressing t…

Unless it's changed recently, IntelliJ IDEA has similar annoyances[0]. Again, using the equivalently placed key works instead. Are they using scan-codes for some reason? Seems extra bizarre given that JetBrains isn't even a US based company! [0] https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/po...

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Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Post by keybored »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #21

This annoys the hell out of me and I only speak English. Microsoft is probably the biggest development-focused company in the world, but their own work communications app, Teams, doesn't allow you to paste small pieces of code in a chat because it replaces punctuation with emoji. Regardless, if I want an emoji, I will type the emoji. If I typed ':)' I want ':)' not some stupid yellow face. Meta's Facebook Messenger d…

> Regardless, if I want an emoji, I will type the emoji. If I typed ':)' I want ':)' not some stupid yellow face.

But are you sure that you didn’t really want `:slightly_smiling_face:`? (Auto-complete to passive-aggressiveness)

Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Post by keybored »

kps wrote: post #121
usrusr wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truly a joy on German keyboards where ` is a dead key that makes the system wait for an e, or an a to receive that accent and certain OS don't come with a nodeadkeys alternative keyboard map. I often find myself with the ` in the copy/paste buffer when worrying code-heavy markdown because pasting is so much easier...

Can't you just type [deadkey]+Space to get the ‘undead’ version? That works on Linux and MacOS and ChromeOS.

Probably, but having to type six keys just to open a code block is probably painful.

Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Post by keybored »

karmakaze wrote: post #25

I didn't realize French was written with spaces before colons. It might be time to lose that space, similar to how we don't double space after period. I'm not saying G.Docs or any editor should dictate how French is written, only being pragmatic if I have to choose between (no space): or unwanted emojis ending up in docs.

The French aren’t gonna change their language over an emoji picker. :slightly_smiling_face:

Re: The plague of emoji insertion in French docs

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Post by Normille »

jobigoud wrote: post #101
rodelrod wrote: post #44

This space before the colon and other marks in French should actually be a narrow non-breaking space (U+202F) [0]. There's no key for it in the AZERTY layout. This has been a problem since the typewriter age. People having to get on with their jobs coped with it by using a full, breaking em-space. Unless this gets replaced automatically by the word processor, you get horrid typography and misplaced line breaks all ov…

A modern solution is simply to have non-breaking space easily accessible in your keyboard layout for when you need it. In the BÉPO layout this is at SHIFT + space. Especially simple since all double punctuations (:?!; those that require an nbsp before them) are also accessed with SHIFT.

  >A modern solution is simply to have non-breaking space easily accessible in your keyboard layout
An even better solution would be --for grown up people who have progressed beyond cave-painting and want to communicate using, you know, actual words-- to be able to disable emojis completely.

Fucking moronic shite that they are. I've seen people on Twatter and FB have entire conversations in bloody emojis. Talk about reverse evolution! Why don't we just go back to grunting and gesturing and have done with it?

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