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Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by valarauko »

nradov wrote: post #81
tablespoon wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The one thing that angers me is that this incident cost us $10K. Obamacare, which was forced upon us and costs us $2,400 PER MONTH, did not cover it. We have no recourse whatsoever for this incident and any future care requirements. Seriously? That's shitty. What's the insurance company's rationale for denying the claim? Isn't there some kind of government fund to compensate people for vaccine side effects? Seems l…

Yes there is a government compensation program: Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP). https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp

Naive q: why are the mRNA COVID vaccines still covered by CICP & not VICP if they're now fully authorized by the FDA? I assumed the initial coverage under CICP was due to the emergency authorization.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by mikysco »

sfusato wrote: post #7

Norway recommends booster doses for 65+ [0], Denmark for 50+ [1], Australia for 50+ [2], Sweeden for 65+ [3], Finland for 65+ [4]. United States recommends booster does for 5+ [5]. "The (Florida) State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old." [6] [0] https://www.fhi.no/en/id/vaccines/coronavirus-immunisation-p... [1] https://www.sst.dk/en/English/Corona-eng/Va…

The obvious explanation for other country's vaccine recommendations is based in data. COVID kills the elderly (75+) who are more likely to be battling multiple negative health conditions beyond COVID.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsoverti...

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by oliv__ »

shingle wrote: post #195

I can add my experience to this thread, as I was diagnosed with "atypical" pericarditis a little over a week after my first Pfizer shot. This started with chest pains, gradually increasing over the course of a day or two before I went to the hospital. I had to ask them to test for myopericarditis, because they were pretty much only considering an embolism or a panic attack. In that sense I was lucky that I had read a…

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Post by walterbell »

jjcon wrote: post #230
nomel wrote: post #148

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It became political, causing FDA heads to resign [1] after threats [2]. And now, the latest booster was approved with no human trials at all [3]. 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/2-top-fda-officials-resigned... 2. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/white-house-threatens-to-fir... 3. https://www.health.com/news/new-covid-boosters-human-testing...

Flu shots don't require human trials either, should covid be all that different (genuine question) if so why?

Flu shots were not mandated for work, study or travel.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by cragfar »

hedora wrote: post #190
cragfar wrote: post #109

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>There may be concerning long term effects, but keep persepcive, the worst possible case is still better than the known case of COVID. The most common outcome of Covid is feeling bad for a couple of days (up to a week), and then moving on with life across all age groups. This has always been the case.

Yes, but the bad outcomes of Covid are > 10x more common than those of the vaccine, and they're also much worse.

That really depends on the age group. The chances of someone under 30 having any real negative effects to Covid is virtually 0, while there is some evidence pointing to males under the age of 30 having issues with the vaccine.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by Bhilai »

jzb wrote: post #160
ivraatiems wrote: post #65

I would just like us all to stop pretending that any of one's fear of COVID or skepticism of vaccines or distrust of whoever or whatever is about rational calculated risks. It's about how we feel, so let's talk about that. Look, everyone is scared of doing something until they're scared of not doing it. Everyone distrusts government until they trust it, and distrusts pharma until they trust it. Some people will wear…

"Can we just admit this isn't about logic or statistics, and never was? It was always a persuasion game either way." Kind of? The fact is that we've turned into a society where we can't even be unified in trying to prevent disease. If "the left" is for vaccines, masking, social distancing, etc. then "the right" has to immediately be against it. I don't recall any of my friends or family needing persuasion at all. The…

Quite a bit of vaccine drama is not political but either mistrust of the system or alternate beliefs. Here is an anecdote - My family has a bunch of anti-vaxers who have not had a single dose of COVID vaccine yet and claim they have never gotten COVID. These are highly educated (masters in engineering) and hard left leaning (Bernie/AOC supporters.) They also mostly reject modern medicine and believe in Homeopathy. So much so that their toddler had a pretty bad fall that almost cut his tongue in half but they refused to take the kid to emergency room and treated him with some homeopathy chart of medicines they keep in their home. Their family doctor convinced their elderly mom to get the vaccine and now the mom claims to have gotten nut allergy from the vaccine. Their mom is pretty left leaning too.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by walterbell »

mikysco wrote: post #232
sfusato wrote: post #7

Norway recommends booster doses for 65+ [0], Denmark for 50+ [1], Australia for 50+ [2], Sweeden for 65+ [3], Finland for 65+ [4]. United States recommends booster does for 5+ [5]. "The (Florida) State Surgeon General now recommends against the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males ages 18-39 years old." [6] [0] https://www.fhi.no/en/id/vaccines/coronavirus-immunisation-p... [1] https://www.sst.dk/en/English/Corona-eng/Va…

The obvious explanation for other country's vaccine recommendations is based in data. COVID kills the elderly (75+) who are more likely to be battling multiple negative health conditions beyond COVID. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsoverti...

No, those countries initially gave the Covid injections to all adults, then altered their recommendations to exclude some young adults, based on post-vaccine adverse events.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-pauses-use-mode...

> Finland on Thursday paused the use of Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine for younger males due to reports of a rare cardiovascular side effect, joining Sweden and Denmark in limiting its use.

https://www.fox19.com/2021/10/07/some-european-countries-sus...

> All three countries based their decision on an unpublished study with Sweden’s Public Health Agency saying that it signals “an increased risk of side effects such as inflammation of the heart muscle or the pericardium” — the double-walled sac containing the heart and the roots of the main vessels. It added: “The risk of being affected is very small.”

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by NeutronStar »

sharken wrote: post #156
enragedcacti wrote: post #149

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Not the OP but: Covid definitely isn't over, it's just that we've gotten better at treating it and people have decided that they are over it. It is still killing almost 2000 people a week in the US and it's very possible that we will see a huge spike in that as we get further into winter. the "next" booster is referring to the updated vaccine that more effectively targets the dominant "Omicron" variant.

At least provide some facts to the 2000 people a week claim.

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Post by calculatte »

hedora wrote: post #179
calculatte wrote: post #144

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With the way the numbers around Covid and Covid deaths were cooked, there is no way to determine how many died from Covid. Excess mortality is higher now than during Covid https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-excess-deaths-hi... There is evidence of statistical lies perpetuated to benefit big pharma. - The extreme false positive rate of COVID testing - Blindly combining "of" and "with" Covid cases for cause of…

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Go ahead and ignore it, because that isn't what I said or implied at all.
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