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OP didn't say they're giving their child another booster.
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> The one thing that angers me is that this incident cost us $10K. Obamacare, which was forced upon us and costs us $2,400 PER MONTH, did not cover it. We have no recourse whatsoever for this incident and any future care requirements. Seriously? That's shitty. What's the insurance company's rationale for denying the claim? Isn't there some kind of government fund to compensate people for vaccine side effects? Seems l…
Yes there is a government compensation program: Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP). https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp
Keep in mind the CICP has both lower payout rates and payout amounts than the VICP. Side effects from the covid shots can only be compensated out of the CICP
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The actual FDA approval letter[0] calls out in the document that all long term testing will not be completed until May 2027. Pointing that out has always gotten one branded as an antivaxx conspiracy nutter, rather than a person who might want to ensure that, well, long term testing data is actually in before injecting something into their bodies. [0] https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download
> long term testing data is actually in before injecting something into their bodies. You don't get a choice about COVID getting into your body, and that is far worse than whatever possible long term effects of the vaccine might be. There may be concerning long term effects, but keep persepcive, the worst possible case is still better than the known case of COVID. And of course long term studies on COVID are also sti…
> You don't get a choice about COVID getting into your body, and that is far worse than whatever possible long term effects of the vaccine might be.
You seem certain of this, but the vaccines are new enough that we can't possibly have long term data to even evaluate.
Bodies are complicated, even more than software systems. I've been in enough SEV reviews where the root cause was seemingly innocuous to know that I can't anticipate with much confidence that any particular change won't result in some cascading failure scenario. This is why we have test environments. Luckily in software it's extremely rare for a change to take years to manifest bad behavior, but not so in medicine.
I'm no biologist, but an obvious question to ask is if the spike protein by itself, which the vaccine will produce, has different impacts than the spike protein coupled to the virus envelope. It's certainly smaller, will it be able to pass through areas where the whole virus package wouldn't? What about the end of the spike that would otherwise be attached to the envelope, will it have an effect?
You can't naively draw a Venn diagram of virus and vaccine impacts where the vaccine impacts are fully a subset of the virus impacts.
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#115One of my kids, 15 at the time, was one of the reported cases of myocarditis. At the time of his hospitalization he was one out of 700 cases. He was in the hospital for two weeks. While under observation after his release, we have not seen indications of lasting damage. No way to know what the future holds. So far, so good. We are still not anti-vax at all. In fact, I might go for my next booster today. The one thing…
> Obamacare, which was forced upon us and costs us $2,400 PER MONTH, did not cover it Can you expand on this please? I find it extremely hard to understand how an ACA-compliant health care plan could "not cover" a hospital stay for myocarditis. Unless you're on a high-deductible plan and the entire stay was less than your deductible?
I have the same question here. What part of it wasn’t covered? Could you share part of the EoB with sensitive information removed?
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#116One of my kids, 15 at the time, was one of the reported cases of myocarditis. At the time of his hospitalization he was one out of 700 cases. He was in the hospital for two weeks. While under observation after his release, we have not seen indications of lasting damage. No way to know what the future holds. So far, so good. We are still not anti-vax at all. In fact, I might go for my next booster today. The one thing…
> did not cover it As in you paid the whole cost, and it was $10K, and it didn't count on your deductables / out of pocket max? Or the patient paid portion was $10K, the insurance paid portion was $0, but now you're a lot closer to your maximums? Did you file with the CICP? https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp
I don't know if this is still the case but as of Nov 21 the feds had paid zero covid cicp claims.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze...
Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins
#117One of my kids, 15 at the time, was one of the reported cases of myocarditis. At the time of his hospitalization he was one out of 700 cases. He was in the hospital for two weeks. While under observation after his release, we have not seen indications of lasting damage. No way to know what the future holds. So far, so good. We are still not anti-vax at all. In fact, I might go for my next booster today. The one thing…
>We are still not anti-vax at all
deciding not to get a covid-19 mrna vaccine != anti-vax
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Boggles my mind that parents are willingly exposing their kids to something they absolutely do not need.
The kid might even have had natural antibodies, since when the vaccines were approved for kids a very big percent of them already had covid.
With the media black out of anything anti-pro-vaccine, it’s not surprising that natural immunity provides better protection isn’t more well known: https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-on...
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> The vaccine doesn't stop transmission That is utterly false! If you don't get COVID because of the vaccine, then the vaccine stopped the transmission. Even if you get COVID, the chance you transmit COVID is reduced becuase the body spreads less. If you do get it, but your body will also clear it faster which is less time to transmit. Sure the above is 100% stop all transmission, but it still stops the majority.
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