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Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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1) Tail end of the year - its hard to get full time roles , The hiring definitely picks up after Jan 2nd week or so. 2) Try consulting/contracting - That space is still brimming w hiring. Much faster on-boarding /hiring.

Any suggestions on how to look for good contracting roles? LinkedIn only seems to have FTE roles.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

#13

Is it possible that you're not passing a DEI filter? A lot of companies are running into trouble for not meeting their diversity goals, especially bumping into the end of the year.

Is there any reason not to tick 'African American' and 'Female' on those forms? Surely they can't prove anything, right?

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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1) Tail end of the year - its hard to get full time roles , The hiring definitely picks up after Jan 2nd week or so. 2) Try consulting/contracting - That space is still brimming w hiring. Much faster on-boarding /hiring.

> Try consulting/contracting - That space is still brimming w hiring. Much faster on-boarding /hiring.

Hiring is faster, yes, but onboarding is often still a dreadful mess. At least if it's at a company that expects you to use their equipment and their closed system.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

#15

The macro economic conditions are such that only senior technical people and similar high-value employees are getting jobs.

It's absolutely true that almost all of the remote jobs I'm seeing are explicitly senior or above, or require 3+ years of experience. I meet this, but for entry level people looking for something immediately, I'd recommend support or QA work to stay afloat while building a personal portfolio and hoping to get lucky with an employer who is actually desperate for developers.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

#16

Is it possible that you're not passing a DEI filter? A lot of companies are running into trouble for not meeting their diversity goals, especially bumping into the end of the year.

Companies have diversity goals? I thought that the diversity related info wasn't used in hiring, as is stated in all the job application forms

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

#17

1) Tail end of the year - its hard to get full time roles , The hiring definitely picks up after Jan 2nd week or so. 2) Try consulting/contracting - That space is still brimming w hiring. Much faster on-boarding /hiring.

Any suggestions on how to look for good contracting roles? LinkedIn only seems to have FTE roles.

Put your resume on Indeed and Dice, and keep a google voice number, you will get a lot of calls from "offshore recruiters" working for primary and secondary vendors.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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post #4

If you're not passing tech screens, why are you assuming this means lack of demand on employer side?

Any developer with a "mediocre but solid portfolio" would know if they bombed a tech screen. Frankly I think even somebody with zero experience knows if they've bombed an interview. So I've no reason to doubt OP there.

I'm choosing to trust OP here - after all this is HN and we assume best intentions.

    If you're not passing tech screens, why are 
    you assuming this means lack of demand on 
    employer side?
Well, perhaps not so much "lack of demand" as much as "supply exceeding demand."

If you have e.g. 50 applicants who've passed the tech screen you might only seriously pursue 5-10 of them.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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They never were. Oh, they think they are but insist on unicorn candidates that don’t make a single mistake over ~four hours. Almost lottery-level luck required, along with nerves of steel.

Five years ago I saw CRUD jobs unfilled a year after I started looking. They are effectively not desperate.

There’s a reason that the SAT (for example) is hundreds of questions taken as a whole and not a series of several sudden death pass/fail tests over the breadth of a four year degree. The second is simply unrealistic for squishy meat bags.

Next up, the "STEM shortage." :-D

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any suggestions on how to look for good contracting roles? LinkedIn only seems to have FTE roles.

Put your resume on Indeed and Dice, and keep a google voice number, you will get a lot of calls from "offshore recruiters" working for primary and secondary vendors.

How legitimate are those? Do they have real jobs?

I've just been ignoring anything from an Indian sounding name as they seemed to me to be scams.

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