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Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

#1
I'm in the middle of a job search and wanted to share my impression after discussions like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33563083.

I'm an unemployed mid/senior-level developer in the U.S. with a mediocre but solid portfolio and passable social skills. I've applied for many jobs at normal non-FAANG places, almost all of which were a decent match for my background, and employers don't seem desperate. Lots of no responses or form rejections, several places where I was rejected after either the initial or tech screen. I haven't gotten to the negotiation phase yet anywhere. When I asked, most seemed serious about hiring: they just got a new round of funding, there was a backlog of work, something, but still no hire. Also almost no response from external recruiters, and very little inbound LinkedIn messaging from anyone.

I'm not complaining, it's just how the grind is. I'm getting enough traction that I'm sure it's just a numbers game. But the employers are not desperate.

If you are a candidate without a golden resume or big network and need a job, then definitely don't get complacent because of HNers telling you that $100k-150k jobs are falling off trees. Put together a decent portfolio and then get those applications numbers up from day one. My personal goal is at least 100 applications before seriously considering pivoting to something else.

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#3
I am curious about this as I am not a FAANG person either, have just 3 years of experience, and am having no trouble getting to the verbal offer stage. I am just playing around, so I don't go beyond that, but it is getting there. LinkedIn remains clogged.

Are you sure the tech screens are going well?

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I wonder if this is related to the transition to remote work. A lot of companies are passing on comparatively expensive US developers and getting the same level of experience for 1/2 or 1/3 the cost in other countries.

I've seen the opposite - more on-shoring after realizing that offshoring has led to a lot of tech debt due to a variety of factors. The economy is spooking people though and anecdotally, we've greatly slowed (but not stopped) hiring.

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I wonder if this is related to the transition to remote work. A lot of companies are passing on comparatively expensive US developers and getting the same level of experience for 1/2 or 1/3 the cost in other countries.

Well communication is more important in remote work, so local developers have an advantage in my opinion.

Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers

#10

1) Tail end of the year - its hard to get full time roles , The hiring definitely picks up after Jan 2nd week or so. 2) Try consulting/contracting - That space is still brimming w hiring. Much faster on-boarding /hiring.

2) Consulting makes sense, companies are less likely to hire in a downturn (because they want to avoid increasing ongoing cost). However,is still work to be done, and timelines to be made. A "one time" expense is easier to justify.
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