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Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

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Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#91
There is a campaign underway to raise funding for the next round of drone development. These stories are hitting the press to help drum up support for spending on drone R&D and production.

There are also stories that are intended to pave the way for drones being used on American soil.

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#92
post #87

This all seems really fishy. You'd think if this was really top-secret level equipment, there would be several failsafes and an inevitable self-destruct mechanism in the event it was out of contact enough to reasonably assume capture. The fact it's wholly intact makes me wonder if it's some sort of honeypot.

No program is going to take their long dwell time drones that need every ounce for batteries and pack them full of explosives.

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#93
post #6

One American analyst ridiculed Iran’s capability, telling Defense News that the loss was “like dropping a Ferrari into an ox-cart technology culture.” An ox-cart technology culture that is allied with China and Russia. I hope this kind of hubris is counterbalanced by more realistic attitudes in the defense world.

I wouldn't downplay Iran's technological capability as this anonymous analyst seems to. By Middle Eastern (and developing world) standards, it's a fairly technologically advanced society - GDP per capita 4 times that of Egypt, 3 times that of Iraq - and this is a country where (unlike, say, Iraq in the 80s or Syria in the 2000s) its nuclear development program and missiles are indigenous.

That said, I'm sure China and Russia would also pay very well in both cash and political favors to get a look at the drone, which might end up being more worthwhile to the Iranians than pulling it apart themselves.

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#95
Tis the season for peace on Earth, or at least some good sportsmanship.

If they hacked it as described, the engineers who pulled it off deserve our congratulations on a hack well played.

If it's all some elaborate ruse for the sake of internal PR, well, good to know those exist outside the U.S. also. :)

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

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post #3

Relying on GPS or any external source of navigational data is risky. I cannot believe the vehicle didn't have working inertial navigation that would clearly indicate the GPS was off by quite a lot. Simple rule - if you have no contact with home and your GPS says you are a couple hundred miles away from where your inertial navigation, your compass and all visual cues (if cruise missiles have it, so should this bird) t…

Oh good. I can make drones self destruct with a gps spoofer.

Careful, you might trigger its berserker mode.

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#97
post #41

Christian Science Monitor: is this a reputable source known for good journalism?

Yes it is. It is one of the best US papers and is read internationally. It doesn't have an agenda, but is a little conservative. In other words, the traditional values of journalism are still held there - like breaking stories and original research and writing. I think importance of web-publishing there, and its success, is fascinating.

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#98
post #10

(Prelude edit: A few people seem to be missing the point I'm making here. I know quite a lot about the predator, and a bit about the Global Hawk. I do not know much about the Sentinel. The jab about building a drone with parts on my kitchen table is a joke, meant to illustrate that this is either an absurd level of incompetence on the part of Lockheed Martin [not likely] or the article is incorrect, the latter being…

> absurd level of incompetence on the part of Lockheed Martin [not likely] or the article is incorrect,

I am also working in the area of government military contracting and I would claim your credibility in LM's competence is baffling. Are we talking about the same company here?

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#99
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that Iran is being made out to be the "bad guy" because they've taken something important and supposedly secret that belongs to the USA and won't give it back. I don't think a country is the bad guy when they are simply trying to stop another country from spying on them.

I'd be interested to know who, other than Iranians, considers Iran the "good guys."

Alright, I don't give a fuck one way or the other. You tell me what makes them the default bad guys and what makes US the default good guy or neutral guy?

Re: Report: Iran Hacked, Hijacked U.S. Drone

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The P code is on a different frequency, so the Iranians could have just jammed the P code, and then presumably the drone would rely on the the unencrypted C/A code which they spoofed.

Sigh.. I hope it was not that insecure.

All of the military GPS receivers also use the civilian signal to initialize their position to lock on to the military encrypted signal. I would assume that in the event that they lose the P code, that they would revert to the C/A code.
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