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Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Chromium is as functional as Chrome and it's 100% Free Software. That's why you should like the Chrome family over IE; you can open up the hood and play with the little bits inside. With IE, you're stuck with whatever Microsoft is nice enough to give you. Also, Bing advertises on Google too. And Google has basically paid for (and continues to pay for) Firefox's development. If there's someone to hate here, it certain…

I think your biases are showing here. No one said anything about hating anyone. It's about companies (with fudiciary obligations which aren't to the customer) are taking very strong dominating positions in key technologies. Being Free Software really isn't a concern to most people. Try being a small company that tries to block aggression from Google or Microsoft. Will it matter that Chrome is free? It's not like you…

Yes, they must be. I think Free Software is cool, and I am not upset that Google pays people to write it. I resisted using Chromium for a long time because I thought the Firefox folks were "fighting the good fight". But honestly, their software engineering practices suck compared to Google's and their product is, as a result, not as good. The great thing about freedom is that you can use both. Or you can take the good features from Chromium and put them in Firefox. Or you can make your own web browser.

You can also advertise it on Google as much as you want; they sell ads to pretty much everyone (including themselves).

In the end, I don't feel like Google is wronging me.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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I'm a Google fanboy, but I'm not sure if I want them to have a majority in the web browser space. While they do move faster than MS, they also seem to have an habit of working on something internally, then one day they announce the feature in Chrome, dump a library to the other browsers and expect them to just integrate it. And since they control the biggest websites, there's immediately an unfair pressure; "Oh, you…

I kind of agree but I think in another respect they have looked at an ageing protocol and made it better. They may not have consulted with everyone but it also doesn't mean that everyone will implement or agree with what they are doing. They are not forcing SPDY on people but I am looking forward to an integration into IIS when it does happen. They have created something in a hope that it does standardise the way we…

Sure, but being better than a convicted monopoly abuser isn't a badge of honor ;)

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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I kind of agree but I think in another respect they have looked at an ageing protocol and made it better. They may not have consulted with everyone but it also doesn't mean that everyone will implement or agree with what they are doing. They are not forcing SPDY on people but I am looking forward to an integration into IIS when it does happen. They have created something in a hope that it does standardise the way we…

Sure, but being better than a convicted monopoly abuser isn't a badge of honor ;)

It could be worse -- Oracle could have a popular browser. Error: OHTTP 419: please insert coin to continue request.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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I think your biases are showing here. No one said anything about hating anyone. It's about companies (with fudiciary obligations which aren't to the customer) are taking very strong dominating positions in key technologies. Being Free Software really isn't a concern to most people. Try being a small company that tries to block aggression from Google or Microsoft. Will it matter that Chrome is free? It's not like you…

Yes, they must be. I think Free Software is cool, and I am not upset that Google pays people to write it. I resisted using Chromium for a long time because I thought the Firefox folks were "fighting the good fight". But honestly, their software engineering practices suck compared to Google's and their product is, as a result, not as good. The great thing about freedom is that you can use both. Or you can take the goo…

could you expand on why you think mozilla's engineering practices suck ? I have sometimes had a similar feeling, but I have too little competence to be a judge of that.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Sure, but being better than a convicted monopoly abuser isn't a badge of honor ;)

It could be worse -- Oracle could have a popular browser. Error: OHTTP 419: please insert coin to continue request.

LOL

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Yes, they must be. I think Free Software is cool, and I am not upset that Google pays people to write it. I resisted using Chromium for a long time because I thought the Firefox folks were "fighting the good fight". But honestly, their software engineering practices suck compared to Google's and their product is, as a result, not as good. The great thing about freedom is that you can use both. Or you can take the goo…

could you expand on why you think mozilla's engineering practices suck ? I have sometimes had a similar feeling, but I have too little competence to be a judge of that.

Because they are not as rigorous as Google's. At Google every commit is read and reviewed before it lands in source control. And they have an entire team dedicated to building the testing infrastructure, so they can do things like testing Flash against every possible input to see if there are any security holes. (There were.) Google is all about being super careful about every line of code. I don't know for a fact that Mozilla isn't, but the quality of the code that I've read in each browser makes me think Google has a better process. But I could be wrong.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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So we're trading a browser from a company with a desktop monopoly for one with a web search monopoly. I'm trying to get excited here. Despite your sentiment, this is still moving the web forward. We all benefit from browsers built by vendors that have a genuine passion for the web. I'd argue that most believe Chrome is built from such passion more so than IE. Since you brought up Firefox - I've always been on their s…

Firefox never supported Web SQL. There was no support to drop.

You're right, my mistake. I should have said "to not support" instead of "to drop support for".
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