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Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by markokocic »

deathwarmedover wrote: post #30
markokocic wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since Chrome doesn't have real AdBlocker, it is logical that stat counter will show its number accurate, while Firefox share will be underestimated due to a large amount of users blocking StatCounter and similar tracking services.

I'd love to see statistics on how many people use AdBlockers and/or Ghostery vs the wider audience that would be picked up by StatCounter and friends. I would be surprised if they made a large dent in the statistics though.

We can only speculate on that number. But point is whatever percent that is, they are likely Firefox users, since Chrome doesn't do real blocking of those sites.

If the number of privacy concerned people is only 5% (a guess as good as any other guess), add that number to Firefox percentage, and the picture looks quire different.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by [deleted] »

icebraining wrote: post #34
chrislomax wrote: post #15

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I too would have liked Firefox to win but I think it's nothing to do with advertising the reason for Firefox declining and it's simply that Firefox has lost it's mojo. From version 4 they killed their browser. They may have redeemed themselves recently but I wouldn't care to look, Chrome picked up where Mozilla left off. Chrome is a fantastic browser and I never have issue with it. Firefox 4 and 5 used to crash at le…

I'm a Google fanboy, but I'm not sure if I want them to have a majority in the web browser space. While they do move faster than MS, they also seem to have an habit of working on something internally, then one day they announce the feature in Chrome, dump a library to the other browsers and expect them to just integrate it. And since they control the biggest websites, there's immediately an unfair pressure; "Oh, you…

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Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by [deleted] »

chrislomax wrote: post #39
j_col wrote: post #35

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You don't think webOS is innovative because it isn't dominating? Therefore you believe there is a relationship between domination and innovation? I'm sorry, but I disagree. Brand loyalty, marketing, and just plain inertia factor into all of these technology choices that we make every day, including what browser we use. I choose not to use Chrome, not because I think its dominating, but I do not share your trust in th…

Although I should have mentioned this in an earlier response, you have actually twisted my words. I actually said >I would rather put my trust in Google than Microsoft, I believe that Google have the interest of a faster more up to date web than Microsoft do and I go with their values. Not I trust Google over every company in the world. And I state my reasons for trusting Google over Microsoft. Because I think they a…

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Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by davidcollantes »

Tomis wrote: post #38
Goronmon wrote: post #33

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That's fine and dandy for experienced PC users like you and me but what about regular people? Housewives, pensioners, working people who want to use a browser but don't have much time to invest in learning its intricacies. I think you are vastly over-stating the cross-section of the population that both has no idea what a browser extension is, yet knows about RSS and cares about using it.

That was my point. If they don't have that functionality in the browser they certainly won't go looking for it. If it's built-in there are ways to make the user aware of it (startup tips, random info pop-ups or even suggestions from more advanced users - "did you know you could do X very easily?").

I agree with you. I am very careful about which extensions I install because I dislike clutter (one of the many beauties of Chrome is it's simplicity). Also, I do not want to end up having extensions that might disappear. If the extension functionality were part of the browser, that would not be a problem.

I am sure those who used Firefox with all addons/plugins would love extensions. For me, extensions are to 'extend' the browser functionality, not to fill-in for the lack of functionality the browser should have.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by chrislomax »

icebraining wrote: post #34
chrislomax wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too would have liked Firefox to win but I think it's nothing to do with advertising the reason for Firefox declining and it's simply that Firefox has lost it's mojo. From version 4 they killed their browser. They may have redeemed themselves recently but I wouldn't care to look, Chrome picked up where Mozilla left off. Chrome is a fantastic browser and I never have issue with it. Firefox 4 and 5 used to crash at le…

I'm a Google fanboy, but I'm not sure if I want them to have a majority in the web browser space. While they do move faster than MS, they also seem to have an habit of working on something internally, then one day they announce the feature in Chrome, dump a library to the other browsers and expect them to just integrate it. And since they control the biggest websites, there's immediately an unfair pressure; "Oh, you…

I kind of agree but I think in another respect they have looked at an ageing protocol and made it better. They may not have consulted with everyone but it also doesn't mean that everyone will implement or agree with what they are doing.

They are not forcing SPDY on people but I am looking forward to an integration into IIS when it does happen.

They have created something in a hope that it does standardise the way we make web requests.

Microsoft actually did this without telling anyone years ago, at least google is open about it.

http://osdir.com/ml/mozilla.devel.netlib/2003-01/msg00018.ht...

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by wwweston »

As someone who's uneasy about how much influence Google's gaining, I switched back to Firefox for about a week recently.

FF8 seems better than previous versions as far as performance goes, but Chrome still seems to be the king, and as a dev I spend so much time on the web it really matters.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by ootachi »

mzarate06 wrote: post #23
guelo wrote: post #14

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So we're trading a browser from a company with a desktop monopoly for one with a web search monopoly. I'm trying to get excited here. It's a shame Firefox couldn't win, but it's tough going up against a determined multibillion dollar behemoth, especially when they get to leverage their monopoly (sound familiar?) by advertising on one of the world's most popular webpages, google.com, for free.

So we're trading a browser from a company with a desktop monopoly for one with a web search monopoly. I'm trying to get excited here. Despite your sentiment, this is still moving the web forward. We all benefit from browsers built by vendors that have a genuine passion for the web. I'd argue that most believe Chrome is built from such passion more so than IE. Since you brought up Firefox - I've always been on their s…

Firefox never supported Web SQL. There was no support to drop.

Re: Chrome 15 Is Now World’s Most Popular Browser (Version)

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Post by wycats »

icebraining wrote: post #34
chrislomax wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too would have liked Firefox to win but I think it's nothing to do with advertising the reason for Firefox declining and it's simply that Firefox has lost it's mojo. From version 4 they killed their browser. They may have redeemed themselves recently but I wouldn't care to look, Chrome picked up where Mozilla left off. Chrome is a fantastic browser and I never have issue with it. Firefox 4 and 5 used to crash at le…

I'm a Google fanboy, but I'm not sure if I want them to have a majority in the web browser space. While they do move faster than MS, they also seem to have an habit of working on something internally, then one day they announce the feature in Chrome, dump a library to the other browsers and expect them to just integrate it. And since they control the biggest websites, there's immediately an unfair pressure; "Oh, you…

SPDY is not a good example. Google published the SPDY protocol before they rolled it out across all their properties, and Firefox has implemented it:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528288

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