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Anti-Soviet propaganda is reaching levels that I thought were not possible.
I also found the timing of the post a bit odd. Given the recent events I would think twice before publishing or linking to anything that could be interpreted as propaganda in either direction. I am writing this as a 100% pro-Ukraine guy.
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What was it about the 20th century that produced such heartless people? Lead exposure? I understand that the 20th century is far from an aberration in terms of human cruelty, but there is an element of sadism that feels different than other centuries. For instance, read the first sentence from Harlow's Wikipedia page: > Harry Frederick Harlow (October 31, 1905 – December 6, 1981) was an American psychologist best kno…
> Did we really need to torture these creatures for decades to understand the importance of care giving? Yes, we did. Look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitalism people didn't even understand how much humans need care, never mind animals. The people placing these babies into care did so with the best intentions, but insufficient knowledge. Your knowledge comes from these experiments.
We figured this out without needing to torture monkeys. Apparently, though, this was not sufficient for Harlow, as he created his pit of despair almost 30 years later.
Laika is memorialized in the form of a statue and plaque at Star City, the Russian Cosmonaut training facility. https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/08/b... The Monument to the Conquerors of Space in Moscow, constructed in 1964, also includes Laika! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_Conquerors_of_...
[1] https://c7.alamy.com/comp/D0GC31/postage-stamp-from-mongolia...
[2] https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~KgAAOSwySVaHdDz/s-l1600.jpg
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That looks like a mistranslation, Лиза translates into Lisa.
*Liza "3" like letter in Cyrillic alphabet is "z" in Latin. You can hear it when pressing the sound button in here: https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%9B%D0%B... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze_(Cyrillic)
This got asked deep in a comment, but NASA also used animals in space tests as briefly mentioned in the article. https://history.nasa.gov/animals.html is a more straightforward recounting of the various tests and animals involved, including the V-2 tests.
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Millions starved to death in collectivization, even more millions displaced from their homes and sent to gulags. Intelligentsia eradicated as a class. The biggest and potentially richest country in the world collapsed due to planned economy. And that’s just my layman knowledge typing on a phone, I’m sure many historians can decimate your comment even harder.
The economy arguments always annoyed me about communism. No country would have an easy time avoiding economic collapse with a US and all her allies global embargo going on for decades. Plus we probably would not have won WWII so quickly if we had not resorted to using a planned economy to turn the nation from an economically depressed state still in the great depression into a global superpower.
I'm not sure why implementing a wartime economic measures is supposed to be a knock. The US economy is far from a textbook definition of capitalism, just like Communist China is nothing like the dictionary definition of Communism. All economic systems are hodgepodge of economic systems, full of good and bad ideas, some with more good than others.
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Things you forgot: - the murder of millions of innocent people - the worst nuclear accident on the planet Russia was bad then and continues today. Nothing needed other than history to make that case.
The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah, totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as "murder". You can say what you want about the Soviet Union, but thinking that they ORDERED the killing of millions is complete derangement. Were there economic problems and famines? Yes, of course, all countries with a rural economy are exposed to famines…
I saw the picture at the top of this article on facebook a few weeks back and for some reason it really affected me: https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/remember... Look at that good girl :-( We really don't deserve dogs.
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What was it about the 20th century that produced such heartless people? Lead exposure? I understand that the 20th century is far from an aberration in terms of human cruelty, but there is an element of sadism that feels different than other centuries. For instance, read the first sentence from Harlow's Wikipedia page: > Harry Frederick Harlow (October 31, 1905 – December 6, 1981) was an American psychologist best kno…
> Did we really need to torture these creatures for decades to understand the importance of care giving? Yes, we did. Look at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitalism people didn't even understand how much humans need care, never mind animals. The people placing these babies into care did so with the best intentions, but insufficient knowledge. Your knowledge comes from these experiments.
