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Survey of workers’ views on salary transparency
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#102It's not easy for people promoted into manager roles either. I'm a new manager who the first time is now exposed to salary details of my, now direct reports, former co-workers. For the past couple of weeks I've been walking around thinking "how the hell does he make that much?! When I was at that level of experience I was paid $40k less".
It's really affecting me to be honest. I'm seeing people in different light and resenting their pay. I'm resenting people being paid in some cases almost double what I was on a new comer to that role with no experience, we used to pay about 80k hour for a new starter in the role I now oversee, we now pay over 140k. That's barely less for a brand new starter than I was making a few months ago with 10 years more experience in the role.
Salary matters suck for everyone, I hate dealing with this aspect of my job. Everybody just wants wants wants and act like children when they don't get.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand the words, but not the meaning, sorry! Can you elaborate on what you mean? Like for example, companies outsource to third world countries all the time due to lower pay, how is that not based on location?
If you could pay someone in CapitalCity as much as SmallTown, a business would. It doesnt pay more because of some middle-manager's sense of fairness. Rather, no one would work for you in CapitalCity at SmallTown salaries. (One of the reasons is the higher cost of living, but that isnt what keeps the salary high, it's that there's no labour supply at SmallTown salaries.)
This is all a distinction without a difference. Salaries follow the labor market, which follows the cost of living. The cost of living is different in different places, because of differences in the labor market (demand side) or because of geographical reasons (supply side).
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
You marry for the benefits, you divorce because of the rampant adultery and loneliness. Every military couple I have known has divorced, and in each case it was adultery that lead to that. On either side of the marriage. I never went into the armed forces, but I had considered the US NAVY even got my ASVAB and was told I would be assigned Navy Nuke, but on the drive home from the processing facility, the recruiter wa…
What’s even more strange is people trust the military to be loyal, but the amount of cheating relative to the general population in my opinion literally creates a culture that values cheats. To be fair, not aware of any military that’s managed to avoid the pattern and would honestly be curious to know of how any have avoided it.
The military trains you to be loyal to your comrades, not your spouse, but in my experience the person cheating in the relationship is usually the spouse of the service member, not the service member.
Recruiters talking about getting laid a ton is probably because the primary recruiting demographic is young single men, and they will say just about anything to get people to sign contracts.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Will someone please think of the landlords?
Back in socialist time, the government was the landlord for a huge percentage of that... they literally took peoples private houses away after WW2, and rented them out to people. Only after the split of yugoslavia, they sold the taxpayer paid and built apartments to then-current renters for peanuts.
sure it was a landlord that had no right to kick you out
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#106This is really as expected. 4% might quit, but, well amongst the other 96% I bet MANY people will consider quitting or at least be vocal about it, etc... Actually doing it in practice and managing to get a better paying job... that's much much harder so yeah... nothing new.
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#107It's not easy for people promoted into manager roles either. I'm a new manager who the first time is now exposed to salary details of my, now direct reports, former co-workers. For the past couple of weeks I've been walking around thinking "how the hell does he make that much?! When I was at that level of experience I was paid $40k less". It's really affecting me to be honest. I'm seeing people in different light and…
If you really hate it that much is management for you? I’d learn to get more comfortable with it.
Also it’s not fair to be mad at your coworkers cause you were underpaid. Be mad at the company or your bosses if anything.
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#108There's a reason why salary bands for each level at a company are structured as ranges and not simply one value (though some companies are trying this). The higher you go up in level, the broader the range is. The variance in skillset increases the higher you go, and employees can also have differing tenures within a level as well. Salary transparency as a singular compensation number doesn't always paint the full picture about an individual, and so it's easy to get upset seeing some of the higher end numbers.
The solution in my opinion is just deeper transparency: how do compensation structures at companies really work. What determines a higher salary within a level for a role. And what are the details for large discrepancies / variance within a particular level. All of which we're attempting to collect and display with Levels.fyi (disclosure: I'm one of the founders). A lot of folks look at the out of band offers for a certain level and immediately conclude that they are being underpaid. As in the article: "7 in 10 will demand highest end of salary range". But to provide more comprehensive information around why someone may have received a higher offer could help clear some of this up. For example, interview performance, scope of work, and previous tenure can all affect the resulting offer.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Back in socialist time, the government was the landlord for a huge percentage of that... they literally took peoples private houses away after WW2, and rented them out to people. Only after the split of yugoslavia, they sold the taxpayer paid and built apartments to then-current renters for peanuts.
sure it was a landlord that had no right to kick you out
So.. basically the same as any other landlord in EU now? You signed a contract, and while it lasted, if you paid, they couldn't throw you out for the duration of the contract.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is pretty much how it works in the military, except it's because you are single you don't need to get paid as much as people who are married, but since you're not married you also have plenty of time to stay later and do all the bullshit details. Oh, also if you're an E-5 or below you don't need to have your own home with real amenities like a stovetop. In case you were wondering why there's so much marriage and…
You marry for the benefits, you divorce because of the rampant adultery and loneliness. Every military couple I have known has divorced, and in each case it was adultery that lead to that. On either side of the marriage. I never went into the armed forces, but I had considered the US NAVY even got my ASVAB and was told I would be assigned Navy Nuke, but on the drive home from the processing facility, the recruiter wa…
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