So 96% can be pushed over? Lol, no wonder companies try this over and over again.
Survey of workers’ views on salary transparency
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#32I once had employer tell me that because I was single with no kids I did not "need" as much income as a co-worker with multiple kids... I noped out of that employment quickly
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" [0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_abi...
For that to work, you first need an abundance of goods produced by an ideal communist society, which doesn't exist.
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#33I always wonder if the world would be a better or worse place if all salaries where forced to be made public by law.
Lots of pros and cons, but it would be very interesting.
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#34> If they find out their co-workers are making more money to do the same job, they are likely to take action. Here’s the rub: “same job”. Sure, this is a reasonable attitude to take if it’s genuinely the same job and each worker is creating genuinely the same value. But everywhere I’ve worked, comparable jobs are defined as graded job families, and it has been very obvious that there is a diverse range of work being…
Work assignment does not equal ability. A phd can be assigned lowly management work, lets say tracking stuff, creating excel sheets and powerpoint presentations. That decision is made by the company and department. Does that mean they should not be compensated for the skills they posess? Surely not. Lets not even start with the metrics used to gauge someone's results. If they even exist, they are consistently useless…
Ability doesn't equal value to the company. If you have Einstein in and all he does is sweep your floors, you pay him a floor sweeper's wage. You pay for value.
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#35I once had employer tell me that because I was single with no kids I did not "need" as much income as a co-worker with multiple kids... I noped out of that employment quickly
This is pretty much how it works in the military, except it's because you are single you don't need to get paid as much as people who are married, but since you're not married you also have plenty of time to stay later and do all the bullshit details. Oh, also if you're an E-5 or below you don't need to have your own home with real amenities like a stovetop. In case you were wondering why there's so much marriage and…
You marry for the benefits, you divorce because of the rampant adultery and loneliness. Every military couple I have known has divorced, and in each case it was adultery that lead to that. On either side of the marriage.
I never went into the armed forces, but I had considered the US NAVY even got my ASVAB and was told I would be assigned Navy Nuke, but on the drive home from the processing facility, the recruiter was bragging about all the sex I would be having around the world. He was saying that knowing that I was in a long term relationship. That really put me off joining.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean this is the same as cost of living adjusted salaries. Same work, less pay just based on geographical location.
It's not really based on location. It's based on competition. Location is one of the factors in salary competition.
I understand the words, but not the meaning, sorry! Can you elaborate on what you mean? Like for example, companies outsource to third world countries all the time due to lower pay, how is that not based on location?
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#37Only 4%?!
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#38I once had employer tell me that because I was single with no kids I did not "need" as much income as a co-worker with multiple kids... I noped out of that employment quickly
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" [0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_abi...
The ethos of the credo is egalitarian, not restrictive. So in this particular case, "the need" is not being satisfied.
The person defines what they need, not some third party who has obvious conflict of interest in down-estimating the needs.
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#39I once had employer tell me that because I was single with no kids I did not "need" as much income as a co-worker with multiple kids... I noped out of that employment quickly
I had this discussion as a boss and in favor of offering extra benefits with someone with kids with the same role and experience of someone without them.
Interesting to discuss it further here in HN. I argue that at the same professional level it is not the same to have a full family that being solo.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" [0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_abi...
The ethos of the credo is egalitarian, not restrictive. So in this particular case, "the need" is not being satisfied. The person defines what they need, not some third party who has obvious conflict of interest in down-estimating the needs.
for socialism (which is the ethos of the statement) of course its a third party that determines your needs and any third party has a conflict