Prior to Musk’s arrival, Twitter had established a permanent work-from-anywhere arrangement for its workers ...for some definition of the word "permanent".
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#182Here's a cool and perhaps unforeseen hypothetical turn-of-events: 100% of Twitter's staff give their resignation letter on Friday, and don't show up to work. Leadership wakes up to a collapsing platform, a 44 billion USD bill to pay, with no one to keep the lights on or answer the PagerDuty alerts. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes? No time for silly "knowledge transfers", or "onboarding new team members". You jus…
Don't typical contracts for people like Twitter's staff in the US come with timing requirements on quitting? As in, you can't really quit "on the day", you have to leave proper notice and so on? I understand that in practice once someone says "I quit!" there might be little interest from the employer to keep them around, but in a scenario like you outline I would be very afraid of legal ramifications. Just a thought,…
According to this: https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/10/23451198/twitter-ftc-elo... a twitter lawyer has told employees that their contracts specify they are a remote first workplace, so it's unclear if Elon has the actual right to force anyone to return to the office.
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#183I am split on the remote work thing from a productivity / creativity perspective. I do think there are times when I'm less productivity working from home compared to the office. I also think as a team we're less creative. Some of the best stuff I've done in my career has come out of casual conversations with my team about the stuff we're building. I've noticed I don't think about what I'm building as much when workin…
I agree that there are pros and cons to remote work, and that it should be possible to have a frank discussion about where the balance lies. However, that is sadly irrelevant to this news item, as Musk isn't banning remote work because of any logical consideration of its merits. He's banning remote work because he's an authoritarian micromanager who believes that workers are to be treated like cattle.
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#184I think that the NYT article has the much better lede from the emails in it: Due to resignations by 3 top execs yesterday, engineers are now likely to have to make sure that their code is compliant with the FTC w.r.t. the 2011 judgement against Twitter. As in, there is a good chance that individual SWEs at Twitter are going to be legally culpable for violations. Even if I am totally misreading that quick lede about d…
How does that work? If a SWE isn't aware of the gazillion laws surrounding their code, why isn't the company liable when X of those laws are inevitably violated? What about the people who review the code? Or the people who wrote the systems that push the code?
It seems Musk's new legal "department" is wanting developers to self-certify - put their own name on the certification.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/10/23451198/twitter-ftc-elo...
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#186I see we're still deep in the "fuck around" stage and have yet to reach "find out."
What if the allegedly bad result doesn't ensue?
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#187What are the chances that Musk composed and sent this email while working remotely? Very high I reckon.
That's not the gotcha you think it is.
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#188This is a great way to drive away your best talent and ensure those who stay are more tired, frustrated, and stressed.
Twitter doesn't need "best people" - it's not innovating and hasn't been for a very long time.
Yeah but if they want to do anything more than struggle to fight fires 24/7 they need at least average people, and management that trusts them, and buy in for the work needed to make a robust system.
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#189Surely this is partially a calculated move to further reduce headcount/expenses.
At this point we have enough evidence to conclude that absolutely nothing Musk does is a "calculated move". If this drives people to quit it's merely a fringe benefit (benefit strictly from Musk's perspective) - this is his normal impulsive micromanaging controlling self.
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#190I see we're still deep in the "fuck around" stage and have yet to reach "find out."
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