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Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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> Binance was threatening to dump a huge amount of FTT tokens on the market. FTX has a big+vulnerable position in FTT. FTX asked Binance to sell them the tokens for a fixed price, so as not to crash the FTT token price. Binance declined This makes absolutely no sense and is not how markets work. If FTX was actually willing to buy unlimited FTT at a given price, Binance could not have "crashed the price" by selling be…

My assumption when reading the quote was that it would be an off-market transaction. Similar to how stocks can be traded in Dark Pools outside of the regular stock market.

It's describing an arbitrage opportunity. If person A wants to buy something for $5.00, and person B will only sell for $1.00, I stand to make $4.00 per unit by simply being a middleman for the transaction. Private or public markets, the arbitrage opportunity remains the same.

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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Dexes like uniswap have been doing just fine

Except they are unusuable most of the time due the hogh transaction fees.

This is true for Eth, but there are many chains where DeFi exchange transaction fees are a rounding error

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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You also have to take the ~4M estimated coins with lost keys into account. If these stats are correct we closer to 15%. Which is a lot. I would have expected 0.1%.

It could be less, but it's not that much. People say often that "most" coins are held on exchanges, which is far from true.

> If these stats are correct we closer to 15%. Which is a lot. I would have expected 0.1%.

That was never going to happen, too much institutional money and index funds have been super focused on trading rather than the tech, and their are ETFs that have paper BTC that can move the price at will, just as much as if a whale decides to do so--it wouldn't even take MicroStrategy's stash, it could just be Laszlo wanting to get some stuff out of cold storage and clear a couple days because the tx fee is low.

Also most of those HFT bots need to have liquidity on hand so this is part of the system, what is noteable is how little it takes to move the market these days: less than a 500 coin sell off on an exchange like Bitfinex gave us >$1000 swings. Which if you trade is what you want as volatility is where the money is made.

MTGOX taught us very early to never trust exchanges and this was after the capital controls in Cypus that made us all on edge at the time, and yet it took multiple GOXXINGS to learn (the last one still hasn't been resolved and the Japanese govt has been dragging it's feet for nearly a decade now). People who buy and keep them on exchanges are going to have to learn why self-ownership is a critical part of this ecosystem.

People may have lost untold millions/billions having sloppy OPSEC when handling BTC, but so did Turing [0] and he did it for the same reasons we have just so it's clear and goes to show how it's not a fringe idea to have self-sovereignty over one's finances, especially in uncertain times like war (and in his case peace time as they castrated for being gay despite his efforts in breaking the U-boat cryptography) and I doubt you will question his genius in cryptography and just think of him as a crypto bro: proving it's just as common for a super genius as it is from the layman to get it wrong.

We just need to make it better, and in that regard I think we have com efar but it's still too difficult and a trusted 3rd party is required: Dorsey is working on something along those lines.

This is why we have always encouraged doing small sums until you can replicate the process and then transfer the whole amount with several contingencies in place should anything happen. It's not easy or perfect, but neither is physics and we can still have re-usable first stage rockets when it was thought to be impossible.

0: https://www.iflscience.com/alan-turing-buried-his-life-savin...

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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Why is it apparently so difficult to run a solvent crypto exchange? On the face, it shouldn't be too hard, just take deposits, stick them in a wallet, and swap client balances in a database. Is the temptation to maintain a reserve ratio < 1 just too great? Do operators try to earn small, low-risk return on client funds only to find there are no low-risk, positive-return assets in crypto? Are the extending margin to c…

Running a reserve ratio So the question you should be asking is: if there is a solvent crypto exchange, how would I ever find out about it?

Presumably transaction fees, market data fees, etc. would provide enough revenue to fund advertisements?

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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Banks lend deposits. That's how they make their money. They have to keep some part of the deposits as a reserve. Real regulated banks have access to the Fed to borrow in a case of a bank run.

And FDIC to de-risk customers from feeling they need to do a bank run.

To a large extent, but not completely.

Anyone who has more than the insured amount, or anyone who needs their money in the near future will still engage in a run.

There were several runs during the 2008 crisis, the most famous is the run on IndyMac Bank.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IndyMac

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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I'm glad a big government supporter such as SBF is out of crypto leadership. Crypto is an anarchist experiment and it should remain that way

> Crypto is an anarchist experiment And, like every anarchist experiment before it, it failed. It continues to draw in new suckers every day, and that is a problem for society. It doesn't matter if you didn't cause the problem. Because you live in that society, you still have to pay the cost to fix it or continue to take the losses from the problem existing. It's the same with slavery, not educating blacks, and then…

Last I checked, the Zapatistas are still around.

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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I did not comment but I have some insight on regular finance and took a Udemy course on building your own crypto... And I came to the conclusion that SBF is a crook and the whole crypto space is build on thin air.

congrats on needing to take an entire course to come to that conclusion?

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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Binance was threatening to dump a huge amount of FTT tokens on the market. FTX has a big+vulnerable position in FTT. FTX asked Binance to sell them the tokens for a fixed price, so as not to crash the FTT token price. Binance declined - this was yesterday/today. Of course the price of FTT crashed today. And now Binance buys FTX to help them out... smells like Binance played 4D chess all along. https://decrypt.co/1136…

Seems more like a classic run on the bank. Made worse because:

+ the bank (FTX) was likely massively over leveraged

+ the bank's primary assets were likely not very liquid

Both of above are speculation. However, why else be forced to sell (1) to Binance?

(1) Matt Levine makes his usual solid argument as to why the price was likely zero, other than cashing out FTX debt: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthe...

Re: Binance to acquire FTX

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Binance was threatening to dump a huge amount of FTT tokens on the market. FTX has a big+vulnerable position in FTT. FTX asked Binance to sell them the tokens for a fixed price, so as not to crash the FTT token price. Binance declined - this was yesterday/today. Of course the price of FTT crashed today. And now Binance buys FTX to help them out... smells like Binance played 4D chess all along. https://decrypt.co/1136…

This doesn’t sound like very complicated chess. Sounds like those Hong Kong TV shows I watched when I was 13

Please share these TV shows so we can all watch them and learn.
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