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Re: EU Voice

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Post by mqus »

djbebs wrote: post #9
piva00 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's thoroughly exhausting to read this kind of comment. It's pedantic and soapboxing at the same time, the two worst types of comments I come across in HN. > I was under the impression that the above entities already have the largest megaphone of all through the uncritical mainstream press. Where do you get this impression that the mainstream press/media is uncritical of the EU? The EU is a large body, obviously the…

Do you see any major mainstream media actively publishing things that go counter to key EU policy? Ones who aren't being actively censored by the EU that is. Show me a mainstream media based in the EU actively supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict then.

Additional to my other complaint: see here for a mainstream medium in germany (imho it should not be as popular as it is) reporting on "Ukraine reportedly attacking Kachovka dam": https://www.bild.de/news/2022/news/russland-krieg-gegen-ukra... . But since you did not define EU policy or "supporting Russia" I'm not sure if that covers your wants. Btw It took 2 minutes to find that article, there are surely more.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by piva00 »

notright5 wrote: post #5
tpartcv wrote: post #2

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I'm surprised you are still posting, others hot takes of yours are:

> The Economist, FT and Bloomberg are obsessed with both race and class. Not content with the meager profits of economic reporting on a budget, they have become peddlers of social ressentment for a long while.

> Only media approved by the Democrat Party is free of hate speech and white nationalism

> They are not capitalist.

> They are sociologists / journalists / non-technical economists earning 50k (barely percentile 60), and telling us daily how action X is immoral (exactly what bishops and priests used to do).

It might be very exhausting to live in your head, hope you find some peace one day.

Re: EU Voice

#33

Post by scotty79 »

ancplt wrote: post #26

I think all politicians should be banned from Twitter and replacements. Ultimately, it is just self-promotion and lying. For international relations, a counterargument might be made: Perhaps the preposterous "little rocket man" exchange between Trump and Kim Jong-un that resulted in a meeting actually brought the countries together. But domestically I think the influence is harmful.

> Ultimately, it is just self-promotion and lying.

That describes nearly entirety of what comes out of politicians mouth regardless of the medium.

Re: EU Voice

#34

Post by espadrine »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #30
amadeuspagel wrote: post #20

> EU Voice is open for registrations only to EU institutions, body and agencies. Disappointing. Better then nothing, but why not provide a platform for everyone, or at least every EU citizen?

Cost of moderation would be significantly higher.

Moderation choices themselves would also have geopolitical readings from trading partners. It would be quite touchy.

Re: EU Voice

#35

Post by amadeuspagel »

bojan wrote: post #25
amadeuspagel wrote: post #20

> EU Voice is open for registrations only to EU institutions, body and agencies. Disappointing. Better then nothing, but why not provide a platform for everyone, or at least every EU citizen?

I'd like that as well. Possibly scaling (=funding) issues?

It's a matter of will of course. The EU talks a lot about digital sovereignty and right now, with a lot of people looking for alternatives to twitter, they have an incredible chance to advance that.

Re: EU Voice

#36

Post by philjohn »

emaro wrote: post #28

This is great, it shows one of the strengths of the Fediverse. Official bodies can participate in social media without being dependent on a foreign, for-profit company. And you can read updates with a lot of different applications, be it Mastodon, Pleroma or the RSS reader of your choice.

And the journalist issue is solved by media companies having official servers under their domain.

Re: EU Voice

#37

Post by scotty79 »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #22

It always baffled me that so many governments relied on a private solution that only has 5% of the world population as users (Twitter) as the preferred mode of communication with their citizens. It's good to see a solution made by the government instead. The next step is to make it mandatory for officials to use this platform (and Twitter or Facebook in addition if they want to, I don't care) for all their official c…

I don't use Twitter but seen numerous tweets cited in all the other media I consume.

Twitter is sort of backbone, fairly useless on it's own, but important for what it enables in wider context.

It's not much weirder that people use private Twitter than that people use private google.

Re: EU Voice

#38

Post by Joeboy »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #30
amadeuspagel wrote: post #20

> EU Voice is open for registrations only to EU institutions, body and agencies. Disappointing. Better then nothing, but why not provide a platform for everyone, or at least every EU citizen?

Cost of moderation would be significantly higher.

I've been wondering about the handling of PR / legal / moderation issues on The Fediverse. Surely if it becomes popular, those burdens will fall on the shoulders of well-intentioned volunteers who just wanted to run a server, who will generally be ill-equipped to deal with them? I guess it could be OK if you're running a small invite-only server for people you know, but not sure how it's going to work for larger instances. Which, looking at the history of email, are probably where most people will want to be.

Re: EU Voice

#39

Post by WastingMyTime89 »

djbebs wrote: post #9
piva00 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's thoroughly exhausting to read this kind of comment. It's pedantic and soapboxing at the same time, the two worst types of comments I come across in HN. > I was under the impression that the above entities already have the largest megaphone of all through the uncritical mainstream press. Where do you get this impression that the mainstream press/media is uncritical of the EU? The EU is a large body, obviously the…

Do you see any major mainstream media actively publishing things that go counter to key EU policy? Ones who aren't being actively censored by the EU that is. Show me a mainstream media based in the EU actively supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict then.

> Do you see any major mainstream media actively publishing things that go counter to key EU policy?

Yes, approximately all the time. For a time in England, you couldn’t open a newspaper without finding an article critical of - sometimes imaginary - EU policies.

You will be hard pressed to find an article supportive of Russia outside RT but you can find plenty questioning the timing and amount of weapons given, how we track where the money we give go and especially the idea of allowing Ukraine into the EU.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by blitzar »

scotty79 wrote: post #33
ancplt wrote: post #26

I think all politicians should be banned from Twitter and replacements. Ultimately, it is just self-promotion and lying. For international relations, a counterargument might be made: Perhaps the preposterous "little rocket man" exchange between Trump and Kim Jong-un that resulted in a meeting actually brought the countries together. But domestically I think the influence is harmful.

> Ultimately, it is just self-promotion and lying. That describes nearly entirety of what comes out of politicians mouth regardless of the medium.

Q. “How do you know a politician is lying?” A. Because their mouth is moving.

You would have to ban debates in the chamber, press conferences, press releases, speeches etc.

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