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Re: EU Voice

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Post by mqus »

djbebs wrote: post #9
piva00 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's thoroughly exhausting to read this kind of comment. It's pedantic and soapboxing at the same time, the two worst types of comments I come across in HN. > I was under the impression that the above entities already have the largest megaphone of all through the uncritical mainstream press. Where do you get this impression that the mainstream press/media is uncritical of the EU? The EU is a large body, obviously the…

Do you see any major mainstream media actively publishing things that go counter to key EU policy? Ones who aren't being actively censored by the EU that is. Show me a mainstream media based in the EU actively supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict then.

"not publishing anything that go counter to key EU policies" is now the same as "Mainstream media do not support russia"?

I think that media very often call out bullshit takes of the government, EU or national. But being against russia just isn't a bullshit take. That said, Media do cover also when Ukraine does things wrong, but those things are just not as common. You can't report 50/50% when the situation is 99/1%.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by iLoveOncall »

It always baffled me that so many governments relied on a private solution that only has 5% of the world population as users (Twitter) as the preferred mode of communication with their citizens.

It's good to see a solution made by the government instead.

The next step is to make it mandatory for officials to use this platform (and Twitter or Facebook in addition if they want to, I don't care) for all their official communication.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by bojan »

djbebs wrote: post #9
piva00 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's thoroughly exhausting to read this kind of comment. It's pedantic and soapboxing at the same time, the two worst types of comments I come across in HN. > I was under the impression that the above entities already have the largest megaphone of all through the uncritical mainstream press. Where do you get this impression that the mainstream press/media is uncritical of the EU? The EU is a large body, obviously the…

Do you see any major mainstream media actively publishing things that go counter to key EU policy? Ones who aren't being actively censored by the EU that is. Show me a mainstream media based in the EU actively supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict then.

It's not a "Ukraine conflict", it is a Russian invasion on a neighbouring sovereign country called Ukraine. It's as much a "Ukraine" conflict as certain events of 1939 were "Poland conflict".

How do you even support the attacker in this war and remain true to the facts is beyond me. So it's really difficult to understand what do you even mean.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by piva00 »

djbebs wrote: post #9
piva00 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's thoroughly exhausting to read this kind of comment. It's pedantic and soapboxing at the same time, the two worst types of comments I come across in HN. > I was under the impression that the above entities already have the largest megaphone of all through the uncritical mainstream press. Where do you get this impression that the mainstream press/media is uncritical of the EU? The EU is a large body, obviously the…

Do you see any major mainstream media actively publishing things that go counter to key EU policy? Ones who aren't being actively censored by the EU that is. Show me a mainstream media based in the EU actively supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict then.

> Show me a mainstream media based in the EU actively supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict then.

It's "Russian invasion of Ukraine", not "Ukraine conflict", first.

What point do you want to make with this though? I don't need to find a contrarian to every point to prove anything, that's also just being a contrarian and usually mainstream media avoids being a contrarian. If you live in Fox News-world that might seem alien but MSM is not in the job of being a contrarian.

Burdening me to prove my point by forcing me into an impossible situation won't change much, I could also tell you that support for Ukraine is so unanimous that no MSM in the EU holds the contrarian position you want them to. That's not wrong or the EU silencing it, it's simply a position that almost no business in the EU would dare to hold because they'd suffer a massive hit from public opinion, most EU citizens do not support Russia (as it should be), why should a MSM vehicle take the contrarian point of view?

Show me proof for your statements, please, I can't prove you a negative, I believe you should be quite well aware of that.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by bojan »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #20

> EU Voice is open for registrations only to EU institutions, body and agencies. Disappointing. Better then nothing, but why not provide a platform for everyone, or at least every EU citizen?

I'd like that as well. Possibly scaling (=funding) issues?

Re: EU Voice

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Post by ancplt »

I think all politicians should be banned from Twitter and replacements. Ultimately, it is just self-promotion and lying.

For international relations, a counterargument might be made: Perhaps the preposterous "little rocket man" exchange between Trump and Kim Jong-un that resulted in a meeting actually brought the countries together.

But domestically I think the influence is harmful.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by notsound »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #20

> EU Voice is open for registrations only to EU institutions, body and agencies. Disappointing. Better then nothing, but why not provide a platform for everyone, or at least every EU citizen?

If you limit it only to government officials/orgs, moderation isn’t an issue. Plenty of good, trustworthy mastodon instances exist.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by emaro »

This is great, it shows one of the strengths of the Fediverse. Official bodies can participate in social media without being dependent on a foreign, for-profit company. And you can read updates with a lot of different applications, be it Mastodon, Pleroma or the RSS reader of your choice.

Re: EU Voice

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Post by piva00 »

notright5 wrote: post #7
piva00 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's thoroughly exhausting to read this kind of comment. It's pedantic and soapboxing at the same time, the two worst types of comments I come across in HN. > I was under the impression that the above entities already have the largest megaphone of all through the uncritical mainstream press. Where do you get this impression that the mainstream press/media is uncritical of the EU? The EU is a large body, obviously the…

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Those are big and bold statements, I think you'd need to properly lay out these claims instead of writing hot takes. It'd do much more for a healthy and engaging conversation than empty platitudes based on your ideology :)

Re: EU Voice

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Post by givemeethekeys »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #20

> EU Voice is open for registrations only to EU institutions, body and agencies. Disappointing. Better then nothing, but why not provide a platform for everyone, or at least every EU citizen?

Cost of moderation would be significantly higher.
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