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Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Post by happymellon »

jbmny wrote: post #34

Caught them live a couple months ago at Madison Square Garden. I couldn't believe how good they sounded or how energetic they were. Zach had to sit down throughout the whole performance due to an injury, but it didn't bring down the intensity at all. And you'd have absolutely no idea Tom Morello was 58 years old. I found myself wondering how much better their shows could have been 30 years ago -- it didn't seem like…

Tried to see them twice in the UK, which they have cancelled.

Hopefully, they will one day make it.

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Post by poisonarena »

beenBoutIT wrote: post #126
poisonarena wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And then Rage Against the Machine's sound in the GTA San Andreas soundtrack changed everything again. GTA had radio stations even in the first isometric one and the three (or more?) after that, before San Andreas > literally the best thing to ever happen to gaming. its a nice gimmick but I think it isn't LITERALLY the best thing ever in gaming. lots of games have music, literally.

GTA SA has literally the best soundtrack ever made in any game at that point in time. Period. It utilizes a complex system to keep repeat plays from ever becoming repetitive. No other game had anything like that then and very few, if any, non Rockstar games have anything like that now.

I disagree, Also Midnight Run Club series had similar system before, and had better music, also why do reddit people keep writing 'literally' all the time?

>complex system

very simple system to prevent repeats and inject slugs, and all the sequels(and GTA 3 + vice, had that system.. Did you play all those games?

Did you play Midnight Club Series? by rockstar also?

Taste wise I prefer the music in GTA4 and Vice City to San Andreas

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Post by poisonarena »

KBeyo wrote: post #85
poisonarena wrote: post #54

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> I’m American and I’m thinking about this third world country (please, this is how they refer to themselves - not as a developing nation, so just hard stop right there) ps no lo basurees asi gringo, da? > I try and try as someone who grew up as the only white kid in my area in Chicago, dirt poor, to understand how, in my opinion, we as the United States, and therefore the world, are going backwards. puro cringe

Well, I employ people from here and pay them double what they’d make and give them opportunities where there are none. Like one of my ML guys - thanks me everyday - he knows it - he was working security at a hospital before I hire him. So not sure where you’re from or your story, but to say my story is cringe…I assume you had a pretty easy life then and didn’t go through the struggle myself or others I’m describing w…

the cringe is the manic style clump paragraphs and unnecessary emotional overshare.. Also you work with a handful of tech employees, im sure the other 3 and a half million people in the country would love you calling them a 3rd world country, which doesn even make sense and not what that term means anyway, esp cringe when gringos are saying it

Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Post by hulitu »

wefarrell wrote: post #150
blindriver wrote: post #3

I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

Have you ever seen the music video for Testify? The gist is that Bush and Gore were identical candidates with essentially the same positions and it ends with a tacit endorsement of Nader. In hindsight Bush and Gore were not the same and the candidacy of Nader was harmful. Their politics would have been more effective had they urged young people to rage within the system, but the rebellious message is clearly more app…

> Bush and Gore were not the same

It's funny how, after those people come to power, you don't see any difference. At least from abroad.

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Post by KBeyo »

maxerickson wrote: post #139
KBeyo wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bigotry declined? I don’t think so at all - not sure where you are living. From the post about the Indians and their cast system the other day on HN, to the lack of opportunity for those who illegally crossed borders and left their families to come ti the US who experience hatred and racism each day - telling me about it all the time. To us for some reason reporting in the news how important it is to not hate on gays…

Pretty sure things are better now than they were in 2000. Like you talk about a bunch of things that are in the news that weren't in the news in 2000 because bigotry kept them from even being an issue to discuss. That they are now openly an issue of contention is progress!

Elected leaders in Italy, Hungry, the USA, and many more don’t seem to be headed towards progress on bigotry…and the “news” has changed in the last two decades. It’s all about getting clicks now for ad dollars. The independent reporting that once was has changed. You think the race riots in Chicago in the 60s weren’t in the news? I’d actually say I don’t read very often about bigotry in the news except for Kanye west getting cancelled for talking about Jews. Where else do you see mainstream articles that dive deep into this issue? Bring it to the forefront again today and you might see a lot of angry people come out of the woodwork to take the chance to standup for themselves.

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Post by mcv »

sdenton4 wrote: post #148
nyokodo wrote: post #101

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> artists uniting or representing a movement in the USA esp 60s. They sold music to the huge boomer population when they were young, by the 1980s those same Boomers voted for Reagan in considerable numbers and were buying Debbie Gibson and Rod Stewart albums. RATM sold music to pissed off GenXers when they were young, by 2020 they were voting for Biden. It’s not revolution, it’s youthful angst that gives way to respo…

I really don't think gen-xers voting for Biden is in any way analysis to boomers voting for Reagan. I think this is the dominant sentiment on Biden: https://youtu.be/KGmXGkIr7w0 He's a stop gap against fascism.

If ever there was a song that truly captured political sentiment, it's that one. I fully support the stop gap against fascism, but it would be nice to have had better options available.

Re: Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Post by danyala »

yeahwhatever10 wrote: post #6

Never understand how the Beastie Boys don't get more acknowledgement for contributing to the sound that RATM used.

I think the Beastie Boys have had more than enough acknowledgement. They must be the most overrated band in history. Nobody is brave enough to speak up about this matter.

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Post by hulitu »

pdonis wrote: post #124
blindriver wrote: post #3

I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

> I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. They have--just not the impact I suspect you are thinking of. The political impact of RATM and similar bands is to make "protesting against the system" into a brand. That means that people who feel that they should be protesting against the system don't think they have to do the hard work of figuring out what is actually wrong with the system and how to fix it. They…

> don't think they have to do the hard work of figuring out what is actually wrong with the system

Yes, I know my enemies! They're the teachers who taught me to fight me! Compromise! Conformity! Assimilation! Submission! Ignorance! Hypocrisy! Brutality! The elite!

> how to fix it.

All of which are American dreams! All of which are American dreams!

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Post by Thlom »

jbmny wrote: post #34

Caught them live a couple months ago at Madison Square Garden. I couldn't believe how good they sounded or how energetic they were. Zach had to sit down throughout the whole performance due to an injury, but it didn't bring down the intensity at all. And you'd have absolutely no idea Tom Morello was 58 years old. I found myself wondering how much better their shows could have been 30 years ago -- it didn't seem like…

I’ve never been able to see them live, but did see Prophets of Rage at a small local venue a few years ago. That was pretty sick.
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