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You want to defend the big company? Why? Copilot is obviously breaking terms of licenses. At the very least it should only be trained on MIT and return MIT code
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That's a fairly sane request, but I think people can do a bit better yet. This is a bug, and IMO the correct solution is to fix it. Preferably people should nip it in the bud at the start of the process, rather than play whack-a-mole with the outcome. When your model gives you back exactly the same data as was put in, that's called "overfitting". It's a kind of bug (or at very least a smell). It means (among other th…
The dataset is so large they only do one single pass, and the content is deduplicated. A study showed that it's usually duplicated content that is overfitted and later regurgitated. Examples that are repeated in many places might have slight variations that help them pass the filter.
Do you have a link(s) to the study, or more details on training?
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The dataset is so large they only do one single pass, and the content is deduplicated. A study showed that it's usually duplicated content that is overfitted and later regurgitated. Examples that are repeated in many places might have slight variations that help them pass the filter.
Interesting! Do you have a link(s) to the study, or more details on training?
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2107.06499
Quantifying Memorization Across Neural Language Models
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Internet data? Copyright, licenses like GPL MIT etc. mean nothing if it is just all “internet data”.
Whatever happened to “information wants to be free”? There is a post on the front page right now about how it’s totally okay to post copyrighted books online.
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Internet data? Copyright, licenses like GPL MIT etc. mean nothing if it is just all “internet data”.
Whatever happened to “information wants to be free”? There is a post on the front page right now about how it’s totally okay to post copyrighted books online.
You want to defend the big company? Why? Copilot is obviously breaking terms of licenses. At the very least it should only be trained on MIT and return MIT code
It does not seem at all obvious to me why training an AI on public code examples should break any license terms.
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I love the people that spent decades railing against intellectual property laws and how you can "steal" knowledge are suddenly Disney-level militants on protecting software copyrights
I doubt any of those would have a problem if it wasn‘t a mega corp like microsoft trying to make profits of that. Microsoft has a history of being evil. Not dramatized, evil is the correct word to describe many pf their practices.
Unfortunately you can't pick and choose what copilot is being used for.
For example, it is a wonderful tool in cutting down the time needed to generate/write tests in TDD but how do you differentiate that between large chunks of proprietary code that it may spit out.
It has some benefits, but far more downsides, and Microsoft and its people in management have a history of being very evil in the truest sense of the word.
A lot of people see that as a trigger word instead and can't recognize it for what it is. What's that say about society when a majority can't recognize evil...
I think it's you who are in the "vocal minority". Microsoft Copilot is an abuse of open source. It is perhaps the greatest theft of intellectual property in human history. We should do everything we can to defeat it. That said, here is my Request For Comments regarding a slightly modified BSD 2-Clause License explicitly prohibiting Copilot-style use: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33458374 We need to do everyth…
Copyright should not protect ideas, only expression. The ideas contained in copyrighted works are fair use for AI to train on, even if you don't like it.
Take a look at the Chilton's Manuals, all the publishers were bought up and now its paywalled for a subscription, consists only of steps and procedures (know-how) so you can repair your own vehicles. That shouldn't be copyrighted.