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Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by taurath »

beardedman wrote: post #101
taurath wrote: post #89

Since apparently nobody else in the thread has any empathy for those who've lost their jobs, future access to healthcare (in the US and less civilized countries), and financial security, I guess I'll be the first: I feel bad for people who are laid off by the machinations of billionaires. I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't optimal to act like raving lunatics will tear down every bit of security you have at…

> in the US and less civilized countries Going to have a hard time finding some goodwill when you refer to other countries as "less civilized". A tad hypocritical.

My apologies, it might have been more accurate to say "in the US and similarly uncivilized countries".

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by auntienomen »

beardedman wrote: post #101
taurath wrote: post #89

Since apparently nobody else in the thread has any empathy for those who've lost their jobs, future access to healthcare (in the US and less civilized countries), and financial security, I guess I'll be the first: I feel bad for people who are laid off by the machinations of billionaires. I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't optimal to act like raving lunatics will tear down every bit of security you have at…

> in the US and less civilized countries Going to have a hard time finding some goodwill when you refer to other countries as "less civilized". A tad hypocritical.

Op is saying that making healthcare dependent on employment is the mark of an uncivilized country. It's not a blanket dismissal of other countries.

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Post by mr90210 »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #84

The ML Ethics, Transparency, & Accountability team. i find it interesting Twitter need a ethics, transparency and accountability team for ML. is Twitter worry about creating a Skynet or something?

You need ethics as soon as you start dealing with privileged access to public’s data.

Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by somedude895 »

taurath wrote: post #89

Since apparently nobody else in the thread has any empathy for those who've lost their jobs, future access to healthcare (in the US and less civilized countries), and financial security, I guess I'll be the first: I feel bad for people who are laid off by the machinations of billionaires. I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't optimal to act like raving lunatics will tear down every bit of security you have at…

It's okay to feel bad for people who lose their jobs. But business cycles are important for a healthy economy. Unsustainable ventures need to die or be pruned at some point if you want to generate lasting prosperity. Whether this specific instance actually serves to create a more productive and more dynamic company remains to be seen, and it sucks for the people affected, but if they're skilled and useful – as every person should always strive to be – they'll be fine.

It sounds heartless, but it's the reality.

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Post by watwut »

anthropodie wrote: post #36
mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #18

What a contrast in leadership when you compare the way Twitter is doing this (rumor is right before bonus/stock vesting and cold impersonal email) and how Stripe is conducting their layoffs (empathy, 14 weeks severance, bonus payouts, etc.) Which company is going to have an easier time hiring after the dust settles and they have a growth stage again?

People might choose based on their preferences: You want stability? Join stripe You want to be sharp? Join Twitter

I dont think it would make you sharp. It would train you for ugly politics, back stabbing and general chaos. But it would not train you for good performance. You can actually hide incompetence very well in chaotic companies if you can talk well and take others credit. And competence without political clout gets punished (because it is easy).

Being sharp as in the positive performance terms requires sharp leadership and decision making. It means leadership that actually knows what is going on and that requires trust. That is not the same as rage layoff after you impulse bought company you dont want while trolling on social medias.

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Post by bordercases »

firefoxkekw wrote: post #110
taurath wrote: post #89

Since apparently nobody else in the thread has any empathy for those who've lost their jobs, future access to healthcare (in the US and less civilized countries), and financial security, I guess I'll be the first: I feel bad for people who are laid off by the machinations of billionaires. I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't optimal to act like raving lunatics will tear down every bit of security you have at…

The personal financial security shouldn't be provided by corporations, is your problem, so you should be the one who solve it, if you want financial security just make sure you are highly employable at any point. Most people fired from Twitter will find a new job without problem and if they can't, is their problem, not mine.

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Re: Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun

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Post by anthropodie »

taurath wrote: post #89

Since apparently nobody else in the thread has any empathy for those who've lost their jobs, future access to healthcare (in the US and less civilized countries), and financial security, I guess I'll be the first: I feel bad for people who are laid off by the machinations of billionaires. I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't optimal to act like raving lunatics will tear down every bit of security you have at…

There is no security. You never know when things will go wrong. When pandemic happened software companies like Twitter were untouched but millions of workers felt its impact shaking them to the core and hence preparing them for better choices next time. The employees that are laid off I wish them best of luck but they should have been prepared for a day like this. They were earning good. It's things like this which transforms people. Maybe someone out of these employees will start next billion dollar company, who knows?

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Post by bitcharmer »

beardedman wrote: post #101
taurath wrote: post #89

Since apparently nobody else in the thread has any empathy for those who've lost their jobs, future access to healthcare (in the US and less civilized countries), and financial security, I guess I'll be the first: I feel bad for people who are laid off by the machinations of billionaires. I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't optimal to act like raving lunatics will tear down every bit of security you have at…

> in the US and less civilized countries Going to have a hard time finding some goodwill when you refer to other countries as "less civilized". A tad hypocritical.

But US is pretty much a third world country when it comes to social safety net

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Post by chess_buster »

firefoxkekw wrote: post #110
taurath wrote: post #89

Since apparently nobody else in the thread has any empathy for those who've lost their jobs, future access to healthcare (in the US and less civilized countries), and financial security, I guess I'll be the first: I feel bad for people who are laid off by the machinations of billionaires. I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't optimal to act like raving lunatics will tear down every bit of security you have at…

The personal financial security shouldn't be provided by corporations, is your problem, so you should be the one who solve it, if you want financial security just make sure you are highly employable at any point. Most people fired from Twitter will find a new job without problem and if they can't, is their problem, not mine.

It should be provided by the state like in Germany – where it's an insurance you pay into if your an employee
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