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Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by zyk »

charcircuit wrote: post #208
zyk wrote: post #202

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No the SteamVR tracking system used by Valve Index, HTC Vive, Pimax and some headsets with extra tracking-plates use IR photo-diodes: https://triadsemi.com/product/ts4112/ VR users that want full body tracking usually go with outside-in tracking, with tracking devices strapped to their bodies. It is expensive, but the accuracy is very good.

SteamVR tracking does use photodiodes, but it is an inside out tracking system. This is because the photodiodes are on the tracked devices. The base stations project distorted planes of light that sweep through the play space and thef planes quickly flash to communicate information like the orientation of the base station.

Thanks for the clarification!

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Post by MuffinFlavored »

chaostheory wrote: post #8

I’m hoping with the PSVR2 launch that people will finally realize that the metaverse consists of way more than just meta and Horizon. The current complaints on how the metaverse sucks are like if people only visited Yahoo’s homepage and decided that it was the entire internet and that the entire internet was terrible. It’s a ridiculous way to evaluate an entire ecosystem, but in their defense at least they took 5 min…

> their brand is so toxic

signed, 1 of 2,000,000,000 monthly active users across Messenger, Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram

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Post by wingmanjd »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #207
wingmanjd wrote: post #165

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Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky are both space-based PC VR games, if you're still looking around for one. Your quest 2 might be able to stream them from a PC. My eyesight is _just_ able to play without glasses inserts, so I marginally feel your pain. I wish I could use my glasses. Maybe it's time I pulled out contacts again.

Saw them both but they aren't worth it. Forgot to mention.

What are you looking for in a space game? I also know that Overload (Descent clone) has a VR mode.

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Post by dTal »

dpkirchner wrote: post #194
mrguyorama wrote: post #142

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Wanting to multitask VR and non-VR workloads is...... unusual. You may be extremely niche here.

I think I'd like that. Having some way to pop up an overlay that I can interact with (reply to a chat message, check a YT video, etc) while the game remains in the primary display. Sort of an AR in VR.

It makes me sad that not even VR is going to escape the pervasiveness of smartphones.

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Post by dTal »

insanitybit wrote: post #154
mrguyorama wrote: post #142

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Wanting to multitask VR and non-VR workloads is...... unusual. You may be extremely niche here.

I don't know anyone who sits down to just do one thing, everyone hops between apps.

Believe it or not, some people are still able to focus, even in 2022.

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Post by dTal »

pandama wrote: post #167
lonelyasacloud wrote: post #75

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>>Apple is the worst thing that could happen to VR Like they were for MP3 players, Smartphones, expensive headphones and Smartwatches?

I can't deploy my own developed app to my own devices permanently without paying $100/year. Yes, I use Android.

I'm confused. Why not? Android lets you sideload.

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by hacym »

chaostheory wrote: post #204
boardwaalk wrote: post #203

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I respectfully disagree. I think VR is about in the same place experience-wise. PSVR has Beat Saber. And the social experiences (I'm assuming you mean VRChat and such) are... just fine, in my opinion? And I definitely have long-distance relationships where it makes sense. The novelty wears off quick and being isolated and with an uncomfortable headset on is a non-negligible cost vs video/voice/text. (I have a recent…

> I think VR is about in the same place experience-wise. If all you've experienced is PSVR1, the visual fidelity has gotten much better on newer platforms and so have the controls and tracking which all greatly affect the experience. Wireless is also a big game changer. > And the social experiences (I'm assuming you mean VRChat and such) are... just fine, in my opinion? And I definitely have long-distance relationshi…

I think you’re looking at VR from a point of view that it can do no wrong, for some reason. If VR workouts are so fun, why isn’t there a larger adoption of it? If the social interactions are so incredible, why aren’t people living their lives in VR yet?

The answer is pretty simple… because it’s really not. The experience is 90% novelty and once that wears off you really don’t have much left unless you find a game you really really enjoy.

VR has had enough time to see adoption numbers reach critical mass. They just haven’t. Most people that own them are probably like me and the person who posted their original opinion. They sit and gather dust.

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Post by zitterbewegung »

wingmanjd wrote: post #213
zitterbewegung wrote: post #207

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Saw them both but they aren't worth it. Forgot to mention.

What are you looking for in a space game? I also know that Overload (Descent clone) has a VR mode.

Overload sounds cool. I should check it out. Maybe since no man’s sky has been updated I will check it out again.

I really want a serious FPS with spaceships .

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by chaostheory »

hacym wrote: post #217
chaostheory wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think VR is about in the same place experience-wise. If all you've experienced is PSVR1, the visual fidelity has gotten much better on newer platforms and so have the controls and tracking which all greatly affect the experience. Wireless is also a big game changer. > And the social experiences (I'm assuming you mean VRChat and such) are... just fine, in my opinion? And I definitely have long-distance relationshi…

I think you’re looking at VR from a point of view that it can do no wrong, for some reason. If VR workouts are so fun, why isn’t there a larger adoption of it? If the social interactions are so incredible, why aren’t people living their lives in VR yet? The answer is pretty simple… because it’s really not. The experience is 90% novelty and once that wears off you really don’t have much left unless you find a game you…

> I think you’re looking at VR from a point of view that it can do no wrong

No. I know VR has a ton of problems, but for the people who have actually tried it extensively, none of those problems are mentioned by people who have near zero experience with modern VR ie not Google Cardboard

> If VR workouts are so fun, why isn’t there a larger adoption of it? If the social interactions are so incredible, why aren’t people living their lives in VR yet?

Several factors:

1. price and complexity for PCVR

2. Facebook’s brand is destroyed for the current working population. Even though it released a technological marvel, no one is even willing to try it just because it’s from Facebook. I write about it in more detail in other comments

3. Some people just don’t like to do any physical activity

> The experience is 90% novelty and once that wears off you really don’t have much left unless you find a game you really really enjoy

How do you know when you haven’t used modern VR? Google cardboard doesn’t count. That’s my main point

> Most people that own them are probably like me and the person who posted their original opinion. They sit and gather dust.

Which headset do you own?

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by chaostheory »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #212
chaostheory wrote: post #8

I’m hoping with the PSVR2 launch that people will finally realize that the metaverse consists of way more than just meta and Horizon. The current complaints on how the metaverse sucks are like if people only visited Yahoo’s homepage and decided that it was the entire internet and that the entire internet was terrible. It’s a ridiculous way to evaluate an entire ecosystem, but in their defense at least they took 5 min…

> their brand is so toxic signed, 1 of 2,000,000,000 monthly active users across Messenger, Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram

Do you read the news or talk to people outside of Meta? Like it or not meta lost the PR war

Their users are trending older now, and the brunt of ad revenue will be destroyed eventually. Why do you think Mark pivoted the company?

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