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Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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Post by moe091 »

bscphil wrote: post #233
jdminhbg wrote: post #137

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I don’t think it’s the social expectations that are at play here. Instead, it’s that without video game football, the odds of a player ever being in this situation are minuscule — so minuscule that we’re currently commenting on an article written about one time that it happened twelve years ago — and so the correct strategy won’t be something that pops into your head when sprinting for the end zone. But if you play h…

> But if you play hundreds to thousands of iterated games of video game football where you control the ball on every play, you’re bound to run into the scenario and be detached enough to know what to do. Back in the day, the AI for opponents was often fairly stupid. Rather than spreading out intelligently to prevent an opponent from reaching the goal line, they would just sprint towards your current location at all t…

> Back in the day, the AI for opponents was often fairly stupid. Rather than spreading out intelligently to prevent an opponent from reaching the goal line, they would just sprint towards your current location at all times. So if you run in a bit of a loop from where it makes sense for you to actually go, you can get the opponents to chase you in a long line. Not hard to dodge them almost indefinitely in this case, allowing you to take an arbitrary amount of time off the clock. Real players won't behave like this.

Imagine seeing someone pull off THAT tactic in a real game!

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Post by tylergetsay »

swader999 wrote: post #325
modeless wrote: post #246

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I wonder if they modified the car for this at all? I've gotta imagine that he at least discussed the possibility of doing this with his crew before he went and did it.

He did discuss it with his crew with five laps to go, so it wasn't spur of the moment but pretty close.

Any recordings of this part?

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Post by olyjohn »

carabiner wrote: post #65
w-ll wrote: post #15

This is also the shortest short track NASCAR races, its in Martinsville, VA. Known as "The paperclip". This was a lot fun to watch. #1 Ross Chastain had to get more points than #11 Denny Hamlin to qualify. He was in 10th I think when he went full send with the wall, putting an arms length in front of Denny at the very last second to finish #5th. Short track races are fun because the do have a lot of rubbing, but they…

> went full send with the wall How did the term "full send" come about? Why is everyone saying it these days?

You lick the stamp and send it. Once it's sent, there's no going back. So you better just fully commit to it.

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Post by zinckiwi »

freetime2 wrote: post #389
zinckiwi wrote: post #91

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At least this is open play with ball in hand, and there is danger there. I fully admit I am not very familiar with American football, but the completely accepted "taking a knee" to run down as much as two minutes of the clock at the end of the game strikes me as far more cynical.

It’s not cynical at all - clock management is recognized and even appreciated as an important part of the game. Teams routinely practice how best to take advantage of the last 2 minutes of the game, and if they misuse even a few seconds of game time the coach gets roasted by the media. When coaches are able to find a loophole to burn additional seconds off the clock, they are celebrated for it [1], and the rules are…

You mean it’s not illegal. It’s absolutely cynical — “how can I win this game by stopping my opponent from playing?”

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Post by BoorishBears »

dncornholio wrote: post #420
BoorishBears wrote: post #392

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That is so not true. The spirit of motorsport across so so many forms is poking and prodding at the limits of the rules. From "$500" 24 Hours of Lemons racers that intentionally start with negative laps to go over $500 to most banned F1 tech (99% of it was stuff that wasn't explicitly against the rules when created: https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/10-craziest-technologies-... ) Once the tech is banned sometimes cl…

Explain why NASCAR drivers are retaliating by completely crashing into each other, is that poking at the limits when it's so blatant? F1 and NASCAR are not comparable. In F1 teams get applauded for cheating with tech, which is completely different, and arguably more boring, from NASCAR where excitement mostly comes from danger.

No one retaliated by crashing over this. Maybe you're confused about drama with Hamlin from before this.

Most of the radio chatter was positive, and the one complainer from the field is a guy who tried and failed with same move last year.

From reverse skew to the Charger Daytona NASCAR is not new to messing with gaps in rules.

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Post by 1-more »

Cockbrand wrote: post #411
1-more wrote: post #378

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My tinfoil hat theory is that it's a handout to manufacturers to sell dropper posts to road cyclists. Aero profile dropper? Money printer.

This has actually happened - pro road cyclist Matej Mohorič won Milan-San Remo in 2022 with a dropper post [1]. Apparently it was a standard round post, though. [1] https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/bikes-and-biking/...

oh yeah sorry I should have mentioned that this incident inspired the theory. Only round dropper posts currently exist and are made by third parties, but I could see frame builders making proprietary aero ones.

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Post by [deleted] »

brailsafe wrote: post #269
rzzzt wrote: post #78

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I thought it's a skateboard thing, but apparently its roots can be traced back to rock climbing: https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/send-it/

I've only heard it used ironically in skateboarding to make fun of anyone who uses it unironically. But skateboarders do sometimes say "full commit" or something like that.

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Post by dwd »

neffo wrote: post #253
TulliusCicero wrote: post #70

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This is really interesting. The incentive to pull off this kind of move, running the clock down a bit, that was already present. But there's a certain social expectation that you won't game the rules so blatantly, so that's a disincentive. What the existence of video games does, is allow people to do things like this in an environment where social expectations and pressure don't really exist. It's like a psychologica…

Yeah breaking the unwritten rules of the game, like not often seen is basketballers under-arming free-throws. It's unsporting, not even Michael Jordan did it (ooff, he took that personally...). Under-arming was done in modern international cricket once and ruined sporting careers.

As it should... 40 years later and we're still talking about it.

Rolling the ball along the ground when a six was required to win made what was an exciting game into a farce. You want your team to win, but not like that. You have to question whether there wa some money put down on the side...

Same can be said for the batsman who walks. It's the right decision when you consider you want to win with no doubt as to the validity of the result. Maybe if sponsors required sportsmanship as part of their contracts you might see less of ball tampering and other dubious practices in the name of winning.

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Post by joshu »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #278
joshu wrote: post #113

Probably up there with The Pass: https://youtu.be/cBthxGThBkc (wait for it)

This one looks really unfair, leaving the track and gaining an advantage by short cutting through the turn.

It’s banned now, but that patch is very rough and that is a steep incline. It is amazing he made it. I will dig out some video from one of my own race is from the cockpit and you can see how tough that pass really is
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