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Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by chaostheory »

rjh29 wrote: post #48
chaostheory wrote: post #8

I’m hoping with the PSVR2 launch that people will finally realize that the metaverse consists of way more than just meta and Horizon. The current complaints on how the metaverse sucks are like if people only visited Yahoo’s homepage and decided that it was the entire internet and that the entire internet was terrible. It’s a ridiculous way to evaluate an entire ecosystem, but in their defense at least they took 5 min…

Apple is the worst thing that could happen to VR. Facebook may be 'toxic' but the Meta is cheap, amazing, supports Air Link for PC, even has cross-play (buy a Quest game, play it on PC at better graphics). Privacy options, they -removed- Facebook login, you can sideload apps. Tacit support for modding games like Beat Saber. Apple would turn their headset into a walled garden with no ability to run custom apps and def…

It’s ironic, but I like and support meta so I agree with your points.

Like meta, I also agree that Apple will be a double edged sword for XR. On the positive side, Apple will help the masses understand the potential of XR beyond gaming, and the M chips blow everything away. On the negative side, only we’ll be able to afford a $3000 XR Apple headset which will save meta’s XR related effort since they’re the affordable option. They’re scared of if, but whether or not Meta realizes it, meta needs that Apple headset to release

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by [deleted] »

nortiest wrote: post #42
kahrl wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their claim is complete horseshit. They must have decided that including the previous game library was not worth the development effort of an API translation layer. Hope they're right...

It's not complete horseshit. The old controllers have more buttons on them and the new controllers have thumbsticks, so the controls for PSVR games won't map to PSVR2 hardware.

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Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by sp332 »

nortiest wrote: post #42
kahrl wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their claim is complete horseshit. They must have decided that including the previous game library was not worth the development effort of an API translation layer. Hope they're right...

It's not complete horseshit. The old controllers have more buttons on them and the new controllers have thumbsticks, so the controls for PSVR games won't map to PSVR2 hardware.

If you have a PSVR, you probably have the old controllers too.

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by [deleted] »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #16

$550, no wireless, no backwards compatibility, and no integrated audio forcing you to use your own earbuds linked to the PS5. The displays look great, sure, but the total package is a disappointment. I'm basically wrong at every prediction I make, but this looks like just another novelty toy with little chance of broad adoption.

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Re: Playstation VR2

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joshstrange wrote: post #28

> “PSVR games are not compatible with PSVR2, because PSVR2 is designed to deliver a truly next-gen VR experience,” explained Hideaki Nishino, a vice president of platform experience at Sony, in September. That's just absurd. I don't have any PS equipment but I had mulled over the idea of getting a PS5 and PSVR since I enjoy my Quest 2 and would like better graphics/processing power but I don't want to build a gaming…

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Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by adam_arthur »

It’s pretty clear that games are the entry point into wide household adoption of VR.

The metaverse as is currently being pursued by many is nothing more than an VR mmo.

We should be calling these things games rather than applying an incorrect label or overhyping what they are. Until utility reaches a point which proves otherwise.

Sony/Microsoft are best positioned to capitalize

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by [deleted] »

rjh29 wrote: post #48
chaostheory wrote: post #8

I’m hoping with the PSVR2 launch that people will finally realize that the metaverse consists of way more than just meta and Horizon. The current complaints on how the metaverse sucks are like if people only visited Yahoo’s homepage and decided that it was the entire internet and that the entire internet was terrible. It’s a ridiculous way to evaluate an entire ecosystem, but in their defense at least they took 5 min…

Apple is the worst thing that could happen to VR. Facebook may be 'toxic' but the Meta is cheap, amazing, supports Air Link for PC, even has cross-play (buy a Quest game, play it on PC at better graphics). Privacy options, they -removed- Facebook login, you can sideload apps. Tacit support for modding games like Beat Saber. Apple would turn their headset into a walled garden with no ability to run custom apps and def…

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Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by nerdjon »

I don't understand the market for a device like this at this cost.

Are there really enough people that would spend this much on a VR system in a closed ecosystem instead of going with one attached to your PC that has access to everything?

I bought the valve index (which is more than this) because I can use it with Steam and any VR games outside of steam. Plus modding.

I feel like Sony should have subsidized the hardware more accounting for the fact that they will get money from every VR game sold for this thing. Otherwise I worry the market for it just won't make sense for developers (which then hurts anyone that bought it).

Also the lack of PSVR1 support would make me seriously question buying this anyways, why invest in a platform if they are just going to make it so you can't play any of your games later (or requires you keep multiple VR's around)

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by pvg »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #16

$550, no wireless, no backwards compatibility, and no integrated audio forcing you to use your own earbuds linked to the PS5. The displays look great, sure, but the total package is a disappointment. I'm basically wrong at every prediction I make, but this looks like just another novelty toy with little chance of broad adoption.

no wireless

And less space than a Nomad!

Re: Playstation VR2

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Post by lapser »

rjh29 wrote: post #48
chaostheory wrote: post #8

I’m hoping with the PSVR2 launch that people will finally realize that the metaverse consists of way more than just meta and Horizon. The current complaints on how the metaverse sucks are like if people only visited Yahoo’s homepage and decided that it was the entire internet and that the entire internet was terrible. It’s a ridiculous way to evaluate an entire ecosystem, but in their defense at least they took 5 min…

Apple is the worst thing that could happen to VR. Facebook may be 'toxic' but the Meta is cheap, amazing, supports Air Link for PC, even has cross-play (buy a Quest game, play it on PC at better graphics). Privacy options, they -removed- Facebook login, you can sideload apps. Tacit support for modding games like Beat Saber. Apple would turn their headset into a walled garden with no ability to run custom apps and def…

> Privacy options

Are we talking about the same Meta company that owns Facebook?

> they -removed- Facebook login

Which they added in the first place, much to the dismay of literally everyone.

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