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NASA finds super-emitters of methane

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Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

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Although methane does not survive for long within our atmosphere, it can trap more than 100x the heat for the same volume.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/why-do-we-compare-methane-ca...

Note that this article points out the potential contribution of the methane to climate change, but this would not be anthropogenic climate change as the gas is already in its natural form, just being released from underground.

Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

#52
Worth noting that EMIT wasn't funded for this purpose. It was greenlit to measure and track dust (arguably still for climate-related purposes, but still!). This is a relatively minor example of why funding space-based science is so important. We're still seeing "accidental benefits" of deploying technology there.

Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if you use force

it is strictly impossible to establish a one-world government through force, at least given our current technology. If a country has the army of robots needed to make it happen, then you have two problems.

It’s impossible to establish a one-world government without force.

Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

#56

How could a 2 mile long methane plume in New Mexico have been undetected for any significant amount of time? From what I understand basic environmental monitoring is done in 2022 around all major industrial facilities in the U.S.

Sadly, the environmental monitoring is woefully inadequate, even next to the western hemisphere's largest industrial complex (Freeport, TX ... though its a bit better of an example to use or include Deer Park / Houston Ship Channel as well because it's part of America's 3rd/4th largest city). Below the dashed line is a copy/paste of a comment I made two months ago on a post of ProPublica's dispersion model and public…

It is probably inadequate by design.

Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need it at the worldwide level, which is especially difficult.

Yes, but that shouldn't prevent us from implementing it where we can first.

Perhaps it should not, but it will. Who is going to accept heavy regulation when their competition is not so encumbered?

Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

#58

So - looking at this it seems Turkmenistan [a repressive, North Korea style dictatorship] is destroying our climate system at an order of magnitude faster than anyone else. I'm well aware of the legacy that Iraq/Afghanistan have left in terms of international interventions into other countries; but if it is our common future on the balance, shouldn't we do something? Something more than just politely asking to stop?

Bring them democracy!

Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

#59

So - looking at this it seems Turkmenistan [a repressive, North Korea style dictatorship] is destroying our climate system at an order of magnitude faster than anyone else. I'm well aware of the legacy that Iraq/Afghanistan have left in terms of international interventions into other countries; but if it is our common future on the balance, shouldn't we do something? Something more than just politely asking to stop?

I've often imagined a dystopian future, hotter world where bombs are dropped on unauthorized coal / cement plants to prevent more sea level rise / super hurricanes, rendering those with no other options into partisan stone-age tribes.

Re: NASA finds super-emitters of methane

#60

So - looking at this it seems Turkmenistan [a repressive, North Korea style dictatorship] is destroying our climate system at an order of magnitude faster than anyone else. I'm well aware of the legacy that Iraq/Afghanistan have left in terms of international interventions into other countries; but if it is our common future on the balance, shouldn't we do something? Something more than just politely asking to stop?

Like offering to pay to fix the leaks in their gas pipeline?

Prob way cheaper than invading the country

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