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As last module docks, China completes its space station

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Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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So then maybe a little late to sanction their tech to keep them from being peer competitors.

Sanctions didn’t stop China from carrying out one of the most successful research and technology exfiltration campaigns in history.

Kind of ironic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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Wait, in order to build this, they've launched half a dozen rockets up with no idea where the boosters would come back down and land? That seems up there amongst worst ideas I've heard for a while, "good luck everybody else." Edit: didn't realize this would be a controversial comment; per the article, the "norm" is to have a burn again after releasing their payload, to "control" / direct the return. The Chinese aren'…

Can you tell me what country does not launch their rockets in this manner, other than in test flights?

Per the article

> Typically, the core stages of similar rockets that reach orbit fire their engines again after releasing their payloads. That allows them to be aimed at unpopulated areas, like the middle of an ocean, when they fall from orbit.

If this is not accurate, my mistake. I took them at their word and don't really know anything more than that about the process.

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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Have we actually had the announcement that Russia is going to switch from sending cosmonauts to the ISS to sending them to China's instead? Or is that just kind of assumed, without announcement?

assumed? Where did you even get this idea? China's station has never been discussed in this context, and the current plan is to continue flying to ISS as is until '27 inclusive, then launch a new one.

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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Some of the features I know from the Chinese space station - Solar panels smaller in area than ISS but produces similar amount of power, indicating much more efficient solar panels - Ion thrusters to keep space in orbit - Automated docking of cargo and crew capsule. Semi-automated docking of large station components like the 23ton labs - A robotic arm similar to ISS that walk along the joint points on the station. It…

So then maybe a little late to sanction their tech to keep them from being peer competitors.

The sanctions are pretty irrelevant when China has one of the best hacking groups in the world and every US corporation of relevance is strongly connected to the Internet.

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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I hope mankind can move beyond building space stations as a handful of modular small cylinders, and start building space stations the way they appear in science fiction: dozens of rooms, cubical exteriors, hallways, human height doors that open and close, stairs, elevators, hangars, a nuclear reactor instead of solar panels, and modules that rotate around an axis to create artificial gravity. And a more diversified c…

You should check out videos from inside Skylab if you haven't[1]. You can see people jogging around the perimeter like in 2001. It was so big that they worried that people who ended up in the middle would get stuck and have a hard time getting back to the walls.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZNKVnDvQY4&t=250s

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of the features I know from the Chinese space station - Solar panels smaller in area than ISS but produces similar amount of power, indicating much more efficient solar panels - Ion thrusters to keep space in orbit - Automated docking of cargo and crew capsule. Semi-automated docking of large station components like the 23ton labs - A robotic arm similar to ISS that walk along the joint points on the station. It…

So then maybe a little late to sanction their tech to keep them from being peer competitors.

Eh, unclear. Nobody was trying to stop China from building space stations. The goal was to limit jet and ICBM tech.

Re: As last module docks, China completes its space station

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> This specific error means you deleted the standard functions that implement the geolocation API That's a rather flimsy straw man. I did no such thing. > You're not automatically entitled to request that every site support your broken configuration. Goodness, now I'm entitled. I did no such thing; I just said that blaming your users for your sloppy coding is a terrible strategy.

You say you're using iOS Safari. I'm interested to know how you were able to configure it to delete navigator.geolocation, apparently without realizing what you were doing. I don't plan to support a broken configuration like that, but if you can figure out the cause then I could file a WebKit bug on your behalf.

Why would it be on OP’s behalf? If it’s just a configuration that WebKit supports it’s either violating the standard or you’re not handling it correctly on your site. It has nothing to do with the OP at that point.
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