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Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Just like last time this came up, what actual law is the executive branch accusing TikTok of breaking? I'm no fan of TikTok nor of the CCP and its asymmetric corporate warfare, but the executive branch must not be allowed to invent its own laws.

Many imports are banned or heavily tariffed at the whim of the executive branch, I don’t see how this is any different.

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is less a free speech issue than a security issue

Free speech is usually banned as being "too dangerous" but who gets to decide that and based on what criteria?

I don't see TikTok as a theater with people screaming "fire!"

The government however could fit that description.

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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post #37

Just like last time this came up, what actual law is the executive branch accusing TikTok of breaking? I'm no fan of TikTok nor of the CCP and its asymmetric corporate warfare, but the executive branch must not be allowed to invent its own laws.

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Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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TikTok is the new anodyne entertainment that is worse for youth than stale TV was for previous generations because it encourages harmful behavior. If it were only the time wasting aspect it would not be so bad --the bad part is propagating harmful behavior to unrealized adults, specifically wrong self-help information.

Eh, how is that behavior any different than previous iterations of planking? It is not. The only real difference is that it puts control of a majority of social media young people use in the hands of a foreign power. When FB et al were doing the same thing ( with same access ), it was all great. I have no love for social media, but that ban starts at home AND if we accept the proposition that TikTok should be banned,…

> only real difference is that it puts control of a majority of social media young people use in the hands of a foreign power

An adversary. Different discussion. National security versus public health / competition. We don't need to justify enforcement on Tik Tok against our lenience with Facebook because they're separate conversations.

To my knowledge, regulators haven't raised anti-trust concerns with Tik Tok the way they have with Facebook. And nobody has taken the public-health mantel when it comes to social media.

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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post #41
post #37

Just like last time this came up, what actual law is the executive branch accusing TikTok of breaking? I'm no fan of TikTok nor of the CCP and its asymmetric corporate warfare, but the executive branch must not be allowed to invent its own laws.

Many imports are banned or heavily tariffed at the whim of the executive branch, I don’t see how this is any different.

Can you give an example? Sanctions against a country or a particular industry are not the same category as "fuck this one company in particular".

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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post #37

Just like last time this came up, what actual law is the executive branch accusing TikTok of breaking? I'm no fan of TikTok nor of the CCP and its asymmetric corporate warfare, but the executive branch must not be allowed to invent its own laws.

> what actual law is the executive branch accusing TikTok of breaking?

The last time this came up there was none [1]. Commissioner Carr's interview appears to be him asking the Congress for such statute.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TikTok_v._Trump

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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post #37

Just like last time this came up, what actual law is the executive branch accusing TikTok of breaking? I'm no fan of TikTok nor of the CCP and its asymmetric corporate warfare, but the executive branch must not be allowed to invent its own laws.

I think preventing the CCP from accessing private data of American citizens probably falls under normal statecraft actions

Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok

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post #28

I think government should ban Facebook and Twitter to start with. Much bigger problems there.

> I think government should ban Facebook and Twitter to start with. Much bigger problems there.

Twitter and Facebook are just an extension of the executive branch of the US government.

https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformat...

So is Tiktok in relation to the PRC.

In that sense none of these companies are "private, independent companies".

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