I think government should ban Facebook and Twitter to start with. Much bigger problems there.
China did like a decade ago but you can use CCP approved social media
FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok
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Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
IDK, I'm old school so I think the government shouldn't restrict free speech even when it really doesn't like what said free speech allows.
this is less a free speech issue than a security issue
Then enact broader policy that addresses privacy and security. The government shouldn't pick and choose winners and losers because it doesn't like how they operate. It should establish the rules for every company to abide by.
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#33As always, remember that there are several FCC commissioners. When you see a headline about one commissioner, you aren't seeing the FCC decide something, you are seeing the politics within the FCC play out. In fact statements like this typically mean the opinion given is not the overall direction of the FCC, because if it was a majority opinion they wouldn't need to be playing to the media and would just be enacting…
Well in this case I don't think the FCC has the authority to block it. They can recommend lawmakers do something.
But this begs the question of if this point of view is based on oversight of the recommendation algorithm, is it limited to those developed by foreign owned platforms?
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is it fine that we allow freedom when another country restricts freedom - is that your question? Should we also be against Uighurs like they are in China? I don't think we should bow down to the lowest denominator and instead still appeal to what's best for all people.
so we good with their GDP growing from using our markets? while they have concentration camps? why are we propping them up if your about freedom?
Sure if you want to go down this route, I don't see why you're singling out TikTok. Do you feel we should stop trading entirely with their country then? I doubt allowing TikTok makes any kind of dent to their GDP versus our other economic entanglements with them.
To me it feels like your argument for banning TikTok is because they ban our applications, and so we should do the same kinds of things they do. My argument is more that we shouldn't measure ourselves against the things they do.
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#35Civil servant thinks the government should expand its overreach and create new regulations + agencies + jobs for civil servants, even when it goes against the constitution, news at 11.
how is it fine that the US allows every Chinese site/app to operate and profit from outside China while China banns everything outside China internally and just copies the banned product to profit from inside and out? we should of never allowed this behaviour
Who's copying who on tiktok? Look at ig now compared to 2-3 years ago.
Re: FCC commissioner says government should ban TikTok
#36As always, remember that there are several FCC commissioners. When you see a headline about one commissioner, you aren't seeing the FCC decide something, you are seeing the politics within the FCC play out. In fact statements like this typically mean the opinion given is not the overall direction of the FCC, because if it was a majority opinion they wouldn't need to be playing to the media and would just be enacting…
>As always, remember that there are several FCC commissioners
Do they vote along party lines too?
I know at the FTC under obama, anything BCP the GOP would oppose.
(It seemed extremely weird since up until that point the people who'd be the most civil had been the libertarians, an awkward alliance since the millenials have all known since middle school that money is just pieces of paper.)
It's a shame the French or whatever decriminalized espionage and renamed it "business intelligence" in the 90s, or we could just start threatening to execute these people for espionage or something when they get too ornery.
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#37Just like last time this came up, what actual law is the executive branch accusing TikTok of breaking? I'm no fan of TikTok nor of the CCP and its asymmetric corporate warfare, but the executive branch must not be allowed to invent its own laws.
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#38TikTok is the new anodyne entertainment that is worse for youth than stale TV was for previous generations because it encourages harmful behavior. If it were only the time wasting aspect it would not be so bad --the bad part is propagating harmful behavior to unrealized adults, specifically wrong self-help information.
citation needed
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, the thing about championing free speech and free trade is that you also need to allow speech and trade that doesn't benefit you. If you're interested in giving up America's commitment to either, that's fine, but I'd like to have some say in what other forms of speech and trade are silly to allow.
ummm with how much we are propping up China... a country with concentration camps and that is anti free speech is biting us back if your about free speech... all western films need to be edited to Chinese "speech", all companies must say the right "speech"...
If it feels a bit weird to have your country's media steered by social, cultural, and legal norms[1] of another country, that's just the situation that the rest of the world has been in for a very long time, now, due to America's dominance in international media production.
The United States should not be expected to have a dominating position in media export forever, though, and when its relevance outside the domestic market wanes, its media producers will be free[2] to edit their products with no regard for what the rest of the world thinks of them.
[1] Also, both Television and Hollywood codes were a thing for a very long time.
[2] They are currently free to do so, too, and they exercise that freedom. They just don't do it in a way that is consistent with your values. Since they aren't nationally owned companies, they aren't beholden to you in this respect.
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#40How would this even work? Get it out of the app stores, fine. But presumably the URL would still be accessible? Likewise sideloading it onto Android devices?
Go after the $ side of it. If it's illegal for US companies to advertise on TikTok, it'll be dead in that market overnight, regardless of app store availability.