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Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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Post by dotBen »

muraiki wrote: post #205
backtoyoujim wrote: post #142

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The sidewall of the track should have some way to impart boost.

Formula E has “attack mode” sections that temporarily boost the electric car’s power by 30kW: https://www.fiaformulae.com/en/championship/attack-mode

Yes, and if you are an actual motorsport fan creating a 'mario kart boost' mode makes your sport look dumb.

At least the way F1 does KERS is more controlled and logical (maximum amount of charge = maximum amount of additional horsepower you can deploy per lap)

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Post by Balgair »

SilasX wrote: post #99
stubish wrote: post #22

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Do you see how fast he is going compared to the other cars? They are going as fast as they can without losing grip and spinning out as they go round the corner. He has the wall supporting him around the corner and could floor the accelerator in top gear.

Okay but why didn’t anyone try this before? They just didn’t think of it? What made it a good idea this time but not any other time if it’s faster?

Its insanely dangerous. Really just neigh-criminally stupid.

Any little lip in the siding on the wall could have caused him to flip or twirl about or get speared or launched his engine all over the place. The walls are designed to keep people safe, including the fans. They are fantastically well engineered and made. But, if he had caught the wall wrong and was catapulted into the stands, he may have killed a lot of people, let alone the danger to other drivers, let alone to himself. The various safety systems, of which the wall was but one, aren't made for that move and could very easily have been compromised in very bad ways.

I mean, it was awesome to watch, just incredibly cool. I'm glad it worked for him, he's in the history books for that move for sure. I can totally see NASCAR evolving to utilize that move in the future.

But he put many lives at more risk than anyone was expecting in such a kinetic sport.

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Post by PointyFluff »

daguava wrote: post #81

This is one of those events that I'm of several minds about: 1) This is what keeps people outside the scene interested and taking note - NASCAR absolutely should publicize and play up this moment, it brings a lot of folks to the sport. It was incredibly awesome. 2) A lot of times something like this is how you form some new regulations - it's truly one of those "You know, this was excellent but we can't do it again"…

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Post by SonOfKyuss »

gonzo41 wrote: post #149
mertd wrote: post #127

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Motorsports are different than other sports because the drivers' lives are under very real risk. A lot of the regulation is to keep the drivers alive. It comes at the expense of excitement but we would all agree it's necessary.

So the next step is to remove the drivers and have a more exciting race. I feel like there's a missing league of F1 autonomous driving cars.

I don’t disagree that the racing itself could be more exciting in that scenario, but without the human element, I just don’t think people would stay interested

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Post by baby »

jefftk wrote: post #56

Reminds me of another example of video-game inspired tactics: Just before he reached the end zone, with 17 seconds remaining, Stokley cut right at 90 degrees and ran across the field. Six seconds drained off the clock before, at last, he meandered across the goal line to score the winning touchdown. For certain football fans, the excitement of a last-minute comeback now commingled with the shock of the familiar: It's…

People have been doing that in football in Europe forever. I remember a number of old world cup games completely ruined by people running the clock.

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Post by baby »

PointyFluff wrote: post #213
daguava wrote: post #81

This is one of those events that I'm of several minds about: 1) This is what keeps people outside the scene interested and taking note - NASCAR absolutely should publicize and play up this moment, it brings a lot of folks to the sport. It was incredibly awesome. 2) A lot of times something like this is how you form some new regulations - it's truly one of those "You know, this was excellent but we can't do it again"…

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I think people should have the right to enjoy something that's unrelated to politics without bringing politics into the mix

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Post by Tomte »

derefr wrote: post #52
Someone wrote: post #5

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It’s not likely that will make you immortal. Being forbidden, your technique will not be used, so your name won’t be mentioned, and it will be forgotten (You might get famous if your technique keeps getting used by accident) For example, there’s “Félix Erausquín”, who invented a javelin throwing technique you probably never heard of. http://rethinkingathletics.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-javelin-... : However the true r…

The immortality comes from the fact that anyone who is reading the rulebook, and gets curious about the origin of the rule created to forbid your actions, will research that†, and learn your story. Sometimes, the rule itself is even named after the person — so your name is right there in the rulebook forevermore. They might not know who you were or what you did, but they know you did something stupid enough to requir…

Thanks! just yesterday I tried to find https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tonxd_9_lY&list=PLUXSZMIiUfFS... and spent several minutes in vain before I gave up. Now you're posting the playlist hours later!

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Post by solveit »

setr wrote: post #202
afarrell wrote: post #129

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A video game is a puzzle and it is fun to watch someone successfully manipulate a puzzle. Live sports are with people and people don't like watching others be manipulated.

Of course they do, things like juking, tricking other players, etc are well accepted The problem is that these kinds of strategies are boring to watch, have little counter play, and only interesting the first time around — as soon as it enters the meta, it’s just boring. In this case it’d probably be fine, but if you spent two minutes doing it? It’d be awful. Exactly the same as it goes in video games — it’s fun to s…

Yeah, for game exploits "haha I can't believe you can do that, that's hilarious, now let's patch it out" is the norm. Exploits that make the game richer and gain wide acceptance are very much the exception.

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Post by bmitc »

dereg wrote: post #180
svnpenn wrote: post #156

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> I love this clip so much what clip?

Sorry - I was talking about the clip of the video game move: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yNc5EasW8

Do Nascar drivers develop neck problems? I know it's a joke that all they do is turn left and that racing is in general tough on the neck, but it does seem like they'd almost always been veering their head to the left over hours long races.
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