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Re: Solarized

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Post by kseistrup »

Aeolun wrote: post #67
kseistrup wrote: post #64

Anyone here using Penumbra? https://github.com/nealmckee/penumbra > »Penumbra is a mathematically balanced colour scheme constructed in a perceptually uniform colour space with base colours inspired by the shades of colour occurring in nature due to the light of the sun and the sky. It cleanly separates the perceptual properties of colours while optimally utilizing the available colour space of typical displays.« It…

For some reason I find it really hard to look at. Everything has the same weight (in terms of color, if that makes sense), and I need some things to stand out, not just have a different color.

Thanks for the mini-review.

Re: Solarized

#92

Post by kseistrup »

KolenCh wrote: post #71
kseistrup wrote: post #64

Anyone here using Penumbra? https://github.com/nealmckee/penumbra > »Penumbra is a mathematically balanced colour scheme constructed in a perceptually uniform colour space with base colours inspired by the shades of colour occurring in nature due to the light of the sun and the sky. It cleanly separates the perceptual properties of colours while optimally utilizing the available colour space of typical displays.« It…

This seems interesting. But the claim about being "mathematically balanced" is skeptical to me. It seems it does better than Solarized which claimed a similar but weaker statement. The nasty details in color space is basically that it is a non-Euclidean metric (when considering perceptual uniformity). There are empirical formula describing a metric. And one can probably numerically optimize in that metric. But it doe…

I agree, the “mathematically balanced” is a peculiar sales pitch. Are our eyes “mathematically balanced”? If not, then the palette probably shouldn't be either.

Re: Solarized

#93

Post by Fnoord »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #14

I credit Solarized with setting the baseline allowing proper "dark" themes to be more commonplace. I'm going out on a limb, but perhaps macOS' Dark Mode, or VSCode's dark mode, wouldn't exist without Solarized blazing that path. It's kinda funny how, before Solarized, I would see tons of gimmicky themes like some that were going for a Matrix or "classic terminal" feel, going all in on a certain theme but eschewing re…

My first love for this kind of colorscheme probable goes to KDE's CDE theme (CDE itself being before my time).

Re: Solarized

#94

Post by Retric »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #14

I credit Solarized with setting the baseline allowing proper "dark" themes to be more commonplace. I'm going out on a limb, but perhaps macOS' Dark Mode, or VSCode's dark mode, wouldn't exist without Solarized blazing that path. It's kinda funny how, before Solarized, I would see tons of gimmicky themes like some that were going for a Matrix or "classic terminal" feel, going all in on a certain theme but eschewing re…

What exactly do you mean proper “dark” themes? Being able to swap to coding in light test on a dark or dark text on a light background goes back to at least windows 3.11.

Solarized dark theme to me looks just like several other similar themes that predate it ex: https://superuser.com/questions/156979/how-to-i-use-textmate...

But I assume you have something specific in mind here?

Re: Solarized

#95

Post by yakubin »

sitta wrote: post #82

It's odd to me that there's essentially no competition to Solarized Light when it comes to light color schemes, and all of the focus is on dark. Personally, I don't like dark themes and find them way harder to read. I love Solarized Light, but I do sometimes wish there were a few more options available for light users. Funnily enough, I lived next to Ethan for a few years in Seattle, and was not a solarized user prio…

I use Alabaster[1]. Contrary to most themes, it is quite minimalistic and it emphasises comments instead of de-emphasising them. I like the minimalism, because it lets me focus, instead of marking every single thing on the screen as a different colour of “important” making my head spin.

[1]: https://github.com/tonsky/sublime-scheme-alabaster>

Re: Solarized

#96

Post by M1Sports20 »

Aissen wrote: post #60

Has anyone done a cross-app configuration tool for color themes yet ? It seems most themes just reimplement everything. For example, I like tokyonight, but it seems everyone needs to port it to their favorite tool, just like solarized did: https://github.com/enkia/tokyo-night-vscode-theme#other-port... Even the open source and professional theme Dracula seem to rely on manual porting: https://github.com/dracula/dracu…

Base16 colors - https://github.com/chriskempson/base16

Re: Solarized

#97

Post by vladvasiliu »

comfypotato wrote: post #50
dngray wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while back, Eliot Miranda posted a detailed message for dark theme users on the squeak-dev mailing list. This is what he wrote: Hi Dark Themers, in an earlier life I worked in optics, designing holographic cameras for bubble chamber physics, so I know a little about focussing systems and depth of field. The iris in the eye expands or contracts to allow or restrict the amount of light entering the eye, attempting to…

Interesting comment. I have to note that light themes give me migraines, so I’m stuck with dark. Can’t help but feel that it is fear mongering, though. This can’t be that difficult to research. Where is the hard evidence to back this up? Your comment sent me down a rabbit hole looking for anything scientific that suggests what you’re saying, and I find nothing that implies long term damage. The quoted post is drawing…

> I have to note that light themes give me migraines, so I’m stuck with dark.

I've had that, too, especially when Windows 10 came out, and I was forced to use it. The full-on white, on a high-contrast monitor, was a literally painful experience.

However, as others, I much prefer having the same lightness everywhere. I hate switching from a dark background terminal / editor to a light background webpage, so I set out to mitigate this somehow.

So, I've started using off-white backgrounds when I use light mode. Solarized is a bit too orange for my taste, but many other schemes are available. I, personally, use Base16 Equilibrium (both light and dark).

Re: Solarized

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Post by beachy »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #14

I credit Solarized with setting the baseline allowing proper "dark" themes to be more commonplace. I'm going out on a limb, but perhaps macOS' Dark Mode, or VSCode's dark mode, wouldn't exist without Solarized blazing that path. It's kinda funny how, before Solarized, I would see tons of gimmicky themes like some that were going for a Matrix or "classic terminal" feel, going all in on a certain theme but eschewing re…

> I credit Solarized with setting the baseline allowing proper "dark" themes to be more commonplace.

Apart from the IBM 3279 color terminal, released in 1974, and literally hundreds of devices following (and maybe preceding) that.

Re: Solarized

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Post by don_albrecht »

I give solarized a lot of credit. Before it came out I pretty much stuck with whatever default theme my application used. After using solarized I started caring about my tools much more. Today, I tend to use Darcula most of the time for IDEs, but I also spend much more time customizing my tools beyond just the theme.

Re: Solarized

#100

Post by thechao »

sitta wrote: post #82

It's odd to me that there's essentially no competition to Solarized Light when it comes to light color schemes, and all of the focus is on dark. Personally, I don't like dark themes and find them way harder to read. I love Solarized Light, but I do sometimes wish there were a few more options available for light users. Funnily enough, I lived next to Ethan for a few years in Seattle, and was not a solarized user prio…

I use printer mode (gray scale). I mean; originally just to irritate my boss during code review, but then it grew on me. I wish there was a good black&white underline/italic/bold theme a la Algol 68.
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