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Re: Solarized

#71

Anyone here using Penumbra? https://github.com/nealmckee/penumbra > »Penumbra is a mathematically balanced colour scheme constructed in a perceptually uniform colour space with base colours inspired by the shades of colour occurring in nature due to the light of the sun and the sky. It cleanly separates the perceptual properties of colours while optimally utilizing the available colour space of typical displays.« It…

This seems interesting. But the claim about being "mathematically balanced" is skeptical to me. It seems it does better than Solarized which claimed a similar but weaker statement.

The nasty details in color space is basically that it is a non-Euclidean metric (when considering perceptual uniformity). There are empirical formula describing a metric. And one can probably numerically optimize in that metric. But it doesn't seem to do something like that (I skimmed through only.)

Re: Solarized

#72
post #17

I’ve always felt like the contrast was too low, feels harder to read

I concur 100%.

It's rather thought out colour scheme and kudos for the success, but contrast is way too low. My eyes got tired very fast while trying to use solarized scheme.

I've stuck with `Tomorrow Night Bright` for quite some time now as I enjoy the scheme and the contrastiness of it, though I tweaked it that the text is almost pure white and background is almost pure black.

Re: Solarized

#73
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you used Borland C++, DBase, Lotus 123, WordStar and others... or used a monochromatic monitor (green, cyan or white on black), you used light text on a dark background. By 2010, when Solarized appeared, the larger portion of the people that started coding on a light text on dark background had already retired. Solarized did a good job in terms of distribution, I give you that 100%. But it is not the most importan…

Not sure why you're downvoted, but anyone that fondly remembers the "Borland Blue" days probably agrees with you.

Certainly! I remember being quite annoyed when I started encountering editors/IDEs, that would not let me type light-on-dark!

Re: Solarized

#74
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author of Selenized is known in some circles for applying the same meticulous approach to make some absolutely mad cheesecake.

You can't just leave that there without some sort of reference. Cursory searches haven't revealed anything. I now must try this cheesecake.

All on GitHub. Unfortunately in Polish, but I suppose you could create an issue to have this translated:

The keyword you're looking for is "sernik".

https://github.com/jan-warchol/przepisy-programisty

EDIT: pull requests with translations are welcome, but you'd have to speak Polish first, which takes us back to square one. Google translate is half-decent with this language though, so you might be able to run off of that.

Re: Solarized

#75
I loved solarized when it was new (to me). But after several years, I couldn't stand looking at those blue tones all day.

I switched (in vim) to gruvbox [0] (better maintained "community" edition [1]), which also has a dark and a light version, which is a lot warmer.

0: https://github.com/morhetz/gruvbox 1: https://github.com/gruvbox-community/gruvbox

thanks, hatsubishi, for pointing out the typo in the second link!

Re: Solarized

#76
post #75

I loved solarized when it was new (to me). But after several years, I couldn't stand looking at those blue tones all day. I switched (in vim) to gruvbox [0] (better maintained "community" edition [1]), which also has a dark and a light version, which is a lot warmer. 0: https://github.com/morhetz/gruvbox 1: https://github.com/gruvbox-community/gruvbox thanks, hatsubishi, for pointing out the typo in the second link!

It's https://github.com/gruvbox-community/gruvbox

Re: Solarized

#77
I find Solarized, zenburn, and other low contrast dark themes too hard to read in bright environments. And I try to always work in a decently bright environment.

Which leads me to the following question: has anybody migrated from dark themes to light themes after years of use? I've always had my terminal and my editor dark, but my browser light. I have a hard time reading long text like prose or forums in dark mode. So that makes me wonder if my code and terminal could also be better in light themes and I just have to struggle to get rid of my dark theme habit.

Re: Solarized

#78
post #13

I used Solarized for a long time, but now I’ve moved on to newer themes. For some reason Solarized just looks outdated to me.

> For some reason Solarized just looks outdated to me

That might just be some kind of fatigue because I've experienced the opposite recently!

I've been a happy user of Visual Studio Code's default dark theme for a few years, and one day I snapped and just couldn't stand looking at it anymore. I switched to Solarized Light (yeah) and I find it extremely refreshing. I just had to tweak the color for "deleted block" in the scrollbar which was way too close to the "compilation error" color.

I guess some people just need change sometimes!

Re: Solarized

#79

I credit Solarized with setting the baseline allowing proper "dark" themes to be more commonplace. I'm going out on a limb, but perhaps macOS' Dark Mode, or VSCode's dark mode, wouldn't exist without Solarized blazing that path. It's kinda funny how, before Solarized, I would see tons of gimmicky themes like some that were going for a Matrix or "classic terminal" feel, going all in on a certain theme but eschewing re…

If you used Borland C++, DBase, Lotus 123, WordStar and others... or used a monochromatic monitor (green, cyan or white on black), you used light text on a dark background. By 2010, when Solarized appeared, the larger portion of the people that started coding on a light text on dark background had already retired. Solarized did a good job in terms of distribution, I give you that 100%. But it is not the most importan…

Macintosh and Sun machines had black text on white backgrounds. Suns had incredibly large screens with lots of dots.

Commodore 64s defaulted to white on blue.

Apple II and IBM machines all started out with monochrome white (green, amber) on black.

Re: Solarized

#80
post #24
post #20

As someone with an important astigmatism, I cannot stare more than a few minutes at a dark background color scheme, even if I love their aesthetic. So I’m stuck writing code all day long with light schemes. In this context, Solarized is a gift and I’m grateful for it. I just cannot name another light color scheme you could stare at all day long without burning your eyes.

I’m a weird freakish anomaly that actually prefers lighter color schemes. I’ve found that, with some tweaks, the default light scheme in Sublime Text to be pretty awesome. It’s calle Breakers. The greys are a little too light, but I find there is a bit more contrast than Solarized.

What I find is that with dark mode I can spot details better - a missing bracket for example. But with light mode I can see the bigger picture better - I can scroll through a page and find what I want more quickly. This, I'm sure, is a very subjective experience.

So I use light mode now all the time. That said, dark mode will always look cooler.

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