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Re: Ask HN: Advice that changed your life?

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It involves grokking the arguments from both sides and if it’s anything non-trivial it will take hours to actually give it due diligence. “Taking a side” without being some political hot-head dipshit is a massive waste of time.

You don't necessarily need to be right, either, but the point is to take a stand so that there's something substantial to discuss. Put another way -- allow yourself the opportunity of being wrong. The assumption is that good faith dialectic follows, though of course that is an assumption made only on good faith.

Nope, that’s still a massive waste of time. There is an endless pool of deep nuanced disputes in a world with billions of people.

Look at just the US elections coming. There are probably 10,000+ seats of significant municipal, state, or national power up for turnover in two weeks. You cannot form a meaningful opinion on even 1% of those and it will be out of date almost immediately.

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Great!

We’re still talking about (remembering) Solomon, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle to this day. Every Christmas people remember the 3 wise men. You’re getting your advice from a time when history barely existed. Of course nobody remembered people back then. Times have changed though. Your entire life can be online and people will remember your wisdom or folly forever and forever.

Don’t forget cosmological timescales :)

Re: Ask HN: Advice that changed your life?

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Yes, that's part of it. It has to speak deep (sometimes elusive) truth. People will be engaged. They will learn. They will use it. And you can use the slides forever. Kinda like stand-up comedy. Ever notice that there are 2 kinds of comics, those who riff with the drunks to get the cheap laughs and those who work at an act to speak evergreen truth, getting deep laughs (and even a few tears). We should be like the lat…

I could see that working for presentations for a general audience like a TED talk or maybe intro/closing slides, but otherwise many presentations are context-specific, and trying to frame the content as a "deep truth" might not fly with the audience.

Yes, you are correct that specific situation require specific numbers.

I think the difference is that you can add evergreen content to the specific numbers.

But I guess if it is a daily 15 minute sales meeting for something like the number of sales made yesterday, it isn't going to require anything but numbers.

But maybe once a week or once a month, the sales meeting could address bigger issues. The "why's" and "wherefores" that are evergreen. These types of meetings can keep people engaged at a deeper level, rather than only look at numbers, where people can become disengaged and not motivated as much.

Does that make sense?

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Oh my wording was bad I did mean that he has self awareness, and that self awareness matters little compared with the power held There’s nothing necessary about subjecting people to boss-control and even if he knows that, it’s more favorable to him personally. It’s a myth that doesn’t fit the evidence that it’s the only way to productively structure society/orgs at scale

Hm. Not sure I understand. Can you elaborate? I remember Graeber making the point that some of the indigenous cultures of North America differed from us in that wealth did never mean power over other people. Whereas, in our society, many people seek wealth precisely as a means to that end. That’s what your quote reminded me of, and it seems to me that Elon Musk, even though he’s the richest person on earth, actually…

sorry tapping out of this thread but the short of it is that I think people act to serve their own class interests and that that trumps whatever one might know about anthropology

Re: Ask HN: Advice that changed your life?

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My mother told me to not care what other people thought. She also told me that words can't really hurt people ("sticks and stones..."). She also believed its "mean" to have any preference about people, calling it a version of "keeping score". In fact, "keeping score" was one of the worst things you could be accused of in my household. Her advice fails to accept the reality of social and emotional needs. It also fails…

I have some similar stories. The issue of generic advice is it assumes a social context or a specific mistake that may not be relevant. In a gang of violent ruffians, "be less violent!" is great advice. A gang of extremist pacifists being beaten up by outsiders probably needs "be more violent!" as advice. Your case particularly hits a nerve with me because "do not care what other people think!" is good advice to some…

> A gang of extremist pacifists

That is: a Jain gang [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism

Re: Ask HN: Advice that changed your life?

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"Keeping score" was primarily a charge used by my mother against people who questioned her or charged her with wrong-doing. She used it to avoid responsibility and put the focus on the victim. This mixed with her brand of extreme egalitarianism into a general dictum "it is wrong to dislike people". This is very poor advice. It's not wrong to dislike people! If you believe it is, then other people are wrong to dislike…

I've seen a few psychopathic parents and aduts in action and this fits the pattern awfully well. There are books out there for children of narcissists and psycopaths, might be worth a look. It's tough starting the race to full adulthood when others begin that race far out ahead of you due to a more appropriate upbringing.

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Thank you for your list! Would you be able to share what "T.R.A.F" is as I was unable to find out more by Googling it.

You won't find it on Google. It's a technique from a book for executives from the early 80's. The last chapter is on how to use a personal computer to manage your files instead of a file cabinet! No internet. T.R.A.F stands for (T)rash (R)ead (A)ction (F)ile The idea is everyday you, "along with your secretary" lol, Go through each item in your inbox and mark each item with either a T R A or F. You don't read or cont…

That's a useful framework. Thank you for taking the time to share.

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> as evidenced in this comment by dated references to designer clothes and fancy cars. I think you ought to reevaluate your ability to read people from such limited comments and remarks. It’s not as honed as you might think, as evidenced by this comment. I do not care what other people think about me. I can not control what others think, nor can I ever know it. Instead, I care about the things I can control: how I be…

I'm having trouble seeing where the two of you actually disagree. You're both arguing for a middle approach, what the Greeks would call "moderation"; neither of you care about every detail about what others think, but both of you do track their possible responses in order to fit in at least some of the time in "low cost" situations. Both of you go your own way when the stakes seem higher to you. I think it's more the…

I think we pretty much agree (and I thank you for your "moderation"), but I go further. There is a fairly strong correlation between the thoughts and actions of others, including ourselves. I care what others think of me, in part, selfishly, because I care what they do with those thoughts. And yes, sometimes being loved and being feared, just as an example, can cause others to give us money or attention, thus two distant feelings can have the same consequences.

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post #131

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To be fair to your mother, this particular advice and view was rampant when I grew up in the 80s/90s. My experience was that this is quite backwards. Physical altercations at school didn't hurt that much, but the name calling, social shunning and constant verbal put down was very painful and has affected my whole life.

“Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will hurt for life” is how I used to say it. Never say anything that couldn’t stand as the last thing you say to someone. You’re words matter more than you realize.

> words matter more than you realize

I could not disagree more. Words are meaningless. They are sounds. They only matter if you choose to give them meaning.

The proof is incredibly simple. I speak multiple languages, one of them is Spanish. However, it is South American Spanish and not any of the dialects spoken in Spain. A common insult in Spain is "gilipollas". It means absolutely nothing to me, even though I know what it means ant that is an insult. Someone could call me gilipollas all day and I would probably die laughing; frankly, it really sounds funny to me.

What if you are insulted in a language you don't understand? Same thing. Meaningless. At that point it really becomes just sounds. And that's the point. The only process that gives words meaning and can attach them to negative emotions is in your brain.

Put a different way: Nobody can force you to interpret words as an insult or something to get emotional about except for yourself.

I got my kids used to not caring about insults by actually insulting them. Things like "You are a moron!" quickly became the subject of jokes at our home, with them being free to call me anything they want in response. At first I had to do this because one of my kids ran into verbal bullies at school. It is amazing to see just how much power one gains by removing meaning from words used to deliver insults. At the limit they become nothing less than a joke.

Verbal insults, at the end of the day, are signs of weakness. The person who has to resort to diminishing someone else verbally in person or --as is often seen-- online, has to resort to such nonsense because, well, to be kind, they have nothing else to offer. Why give someone like that the power to interpret those words as they wish you would interpret them? The best approach is to turn those words into irrelevant noise. To go from that, to have words affect you for life? No, that's a big mistake.

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