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Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by MerelyMortal »

glitchc wrote: post #222
MrFoof wrote: post #89

GM also has electronic primary door release mechanisms in their vehicles. So if the car has no power, you can’t open the doors from inside. Granted, because of regulatory requirements there is STILL A MANUAL RELEASE… on the floor, near the chassis sill (and might be driver-seat only). So you save money going to electronic releases, but still have to put a manual one in anyways. The glovebox is merely annoying (though…

Don't blame GM for something Tesla popularized...

That's incredibly naive.

It sounds like you're saying it's okay to do stupid stuff as long as someone popular does it first.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by scrollaway »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #136
devoutsalsa wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you're doors won't open when the power goes out, that is just frikkin' stupid.

This sort of thing will keep me burning fossil fuels and using older model cars.

This sort of thing is why I'll never buy a car in the first place. It's cheaper and doesn't burn fossil fuels.

Heck, "not buying a car" is one of those very few decisions I took when I was young which resulted in me not being in debt for the rest of my life.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by jffry »

gorgoiler wrote: post #127

Well how are you going to make Passenger Storage+ a $2.99 monthly subscription if the latch isn’t software controlled? Is a robolatch cheaper, compared to a manual latch? Is there a cost saving for the manufacturer?

> Is a robolatch cheaper

Doubtful, but as an extra "feature" they can probably use it to justify increasing the price of the car by more than it cost to add it.

Granted, to me, this would REDUCE the value of the car, but car makers are operating in fantasyland

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #136
devoutsalsa wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you're doors won't open when the power goes out, that is just frikkin' stupid.

This sort of thing will keep me burning fossil fuels and using older model cars.

This nonsense is starting to appear in ICE cars too.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by kennend3 »

D13Fd wrote: post #37
defrost wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That'd be nice .. or just bypass the entire added layer of relay controls and go back to a manual latch. The article scenarios raise some of the real life issues: * What if your battery dies, and you have your small emergency charger in the glovebox? * What if you’re waiting in a turned-off car while your friend or parent or lover pops inside the liquor store, and you need to get, say, your hyper-important pills out…

The real answer for all of those things is obvious - don’t put important stuff in the glove box. But they still show just how dumb this design is, because it doesn’t fit how people use glove boxes.

Because on long trips, passengers NEVER use the glovebox?

When I go on long trips, my passenger often reads, uses their phone and store these things in the glovebox when we are stopped. It is a convenient storage box right at their disposal so why not use it?

As the other guy said, this is a classic case of "you are holding it wrong".

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by smolder »

henrikschroder wrote: post #162
squarefoot wrote: post #156

This is a gem (emphasis mine): "The touch-screen-actuated glove box is terrible because it’s one of those examples where carmakers have found that they have the technology to do something, so they do it, without considering literally anything about what they’ve done . Did anybody want this? At all? It takes something that has never been a problem, opening a glove box, and added cost and complexity to the construction…

Remember curved TVs? Remember 3D for TVs? That was essentially technology bullet-point features, but since they flopped hard you can no longer buy curved TVs or 3D TVs. Turns out if people really don't want shit, it disappears again, no matter how hard various corporations push the shit.

Imagine if we always had the option to vote with our money. We could still have dumb TVS, and computers controlled by their owners.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by MerelyMortal »

bmitc wrote: post #193
permo-w wrote: post #54

one tangentially related extremely irritating “feature” of Teslas is automatic updates, which not only disable the car while they’re going on, but often rearrange the UI so you have to figure out where the buttons are all over again. it’s a flat out disgrace. you get into your extremely expensive car, ready to go, but no the car isn’t available because some dev team somewhere a few thousand miles away decided to push…

Honestly, then why buy it? This has been the case for years (a decade?).

Does the average person who has never owned a Tesla know the updates work that way? And how many of the Tesla owners still dislike it, but have decided that the risk (which could have been prevented by Tesla) is worth the reward?

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

henrikschroder wrote: post #162
squarefoot wrote: post #156

This is a gem (emphasis mine): "The touch-screen-actuated glove box is terrible because it’s one of those examples where carmakers have found that they have the technology to do something, so they do it, without considering literally anything about what they’ve done . Did anybody want this? At all? It takes something that has never been a problem, opening a glove box, and added cost and complexity to the construction…

Remember curved TVs? Remember 3D for TVs? That was essentially technology bullet-point features, but since they flopped hard you can no longer buy curved TVs or 3D TVs. Turns out if people really don't want shit, it disappears again, no matter how hard various corporations push the shit.

Curiously, I can still buy a TV that puts ads in its UI. Nobody wanted that…

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by JasserInicide »

BizarreByte wrote: post #8

I don't want touch screens in cars period and I can't stand this trend of using them. I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.

Sadly it's only going to get worse. Companies left and right are seeing the light so to speak (i.e. how much money can be saved by using touchscreens) and putting them in everything in tandem with switching over to being electric. Doesn't help that countries everywhere are demanding that ICEs be phased out despite EVs having a host of problems and having nowhere near the amount of reliability.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by MerelyMortal »

bluGill wrote: post #148
bamboozled wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average thief is a lot smarter, stronger and good with tools than you think. They also network and know a lot of stuff.

They know that people rarely put anything more valuable than a few coins in glove boxes and so rarely bother opening them.

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