Good post from Phoronix on the topic, also giving a bit of context as to why they're "bringing back" the driver: https://www.phoronix.com/news/FreeBSD-WireGuard-Lands-2022
WireGuard in FreeBSD
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Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#42Between the FreeBSD WireGuard drama and WireGuard's maintainer's (Jason Donenfeld) reaction to the NetBSD implementation, I think it's a good idea to look at not only what's happening, but why and by whom. There's something slightly fishy about it all. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/20/msg03... https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/22/msg03... Jason Donenfeld has, to this day, never…
Can you fill me in? I experimented with Wireguard a while back but it's been a few.
(It sounds like concern about design choices not... gossip? Infosec has been insane the past fourish years.)
Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#43Between the FreeBSD WireGuard drama and WireGuard's maintainer's (Jason Donenfeld) reaction to the NetBSD implementation, I think it's a good idea to look at not only what's happening, but why and by whom. There's something slightly fishy about it all. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/20/msg03... https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/22/msg03... Jason Donenfeld has, to this day, never…
> Jason Donenfeld has, to this day, never answered direct and simple questions about WHY he felt so strongly that NetBSD's wg implementation should be removed from NetBSD.
gets answered by Jason:
> In its current form, there are implementation flaws and violations that I do not consider acceptable, and deploying this kind of thing is highly irresponsible and harmful to your users. Rather than playing never ending whack-a-mole misery with this -- which is not a path I'm willing to go down here -- I'd like to re-examine how this is built from the ground-up and do some serious code study.
(This response of his is corroborated by the article https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/buffer-overruns-lice... which someone else posted further down.)
He also mentions that he's not against having a WireGuard implementation included in NetBSD in general.
Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
no, there might even be detriment Because of the way FreeBSD modifes openssh. OpenBSD might be an improvement to Ubuntu security wise.
No openssl: https://www.wireguard.com/papers/zinzindohoue-bhargavan-prot...
Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#45Between the FreeBSD WireGuard drama and WireGuard's maintainer's (Jason Donenfeld) reaction to the NetBSD implementation, I think it's a good idea to look at not only what's happening, but why and by whom. There's something slightly fishy about it all. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/20/msg03... https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/22/msg03... Jason Donenfeld has, to this day, never…
Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#46Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#47Between the FreeBSD WireGuard drama and WireGuard's maintainer's (Jason Donenfeld) reaction to the NetBSD implementation, I think it's a good idea to look at not only what's happening, but why and by whom. There's something slightly fishy about it all. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/20/msg03... https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/22/msg03... Jason Donenfeld has, to this day, never…
>FreeBSD WireGuard drama Can you fill me in? I experimented with Wireguard a while back but it's been a few. (It sounds like concern about design choices not... gossip? Infosec has been insane the past fourish years.)
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/buffer-overruns-lice...
Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#48Between the FreeBSD WireGuard drama and WireGuard's maintainer's (Jason Donenfeld) reaction to the NetBSD implementation, I think it's a good idea to look at not only what's happening, but why and by whom. There's something slightly fishy about it all. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/20/msg03... https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2020/08/22/msg03... Jason Donenfeld has, to this day, never…
Thanks for the background. However, I believe your question > Jason Donenfeld has, to this day, never answered direct and simple questions about WHY he felt so strongly that NetBSD's wg implementation should be removed from NetBSD. gets answered by Jason: > In its current form, there are implementation flaws and violations that I do not consider acceptable, and deploying this kind of thing is highly irresponsible and…
Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
>FreeBSD WireGuard drama Can you fill me in? I experimented with Wireguard a while back but it's been a few. (It sounds like concern about design choices not... gossip? Infosec has been insane the past fourish years.)
The original implementation had a lot of issues, but more importantly it was pushed to head and deployed in production without a review: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/buffer-overruns-lice...
Re: WireGuard in FreeBSD
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
>FreeBSD WireGuard drama Can you fill me in? I experimented with Wireguard a while back but it's been a few. (It sounds like concern about design choices not... gossip? Infosec has been insane the past fourish years.)
The original implementation had a lot of issues, but more importantly it was pushed to head and deployed in production without a review: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/buffer-overruns-lice...