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Post by rekado »

fleddr wrote: post #663
hackerlight wrote: post #549

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All categories are arbitrary distinctions that someone made up at some point, including the categories of biological sex, race, and your birth name. At the very least it would be bullying behavior for me to single you out and call you a different name or different racial group to what you actually are (as defined by the constructs that society has agreed upon).

Biological sex is not a construct, it's a simple observable reality. Biological sex is factual and immutable.

It is observable but it is far from simple.

Sex is an emergent property of multiple genetic networks. This doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or that it is not bi-modal, but it is far from simple.

https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a

The fact that we don't go around performing genetic testing on people before we interact with them also raises questions about whether sex itself matters, or whether there must be different definitions for sexed categories dependent on policy purpose. (e.g. based on genitals when the concern is sexual violence; based on fertility for the purposes of reproductive medicine; based on gender performance; based on hormone levels, etc.)

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Post by grogenaut »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #851
autoexec wrote: post #845

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> Social media apps don't let users download pictures anymore. These aren't problems with screenshots of text (although others have done a pretty good job in listing those) or even problems with computing. These are problems with shitty social media platforms that want to take control from their users, and with the users who accept those kinds of limitations. Stop using bad user-hostile platforms and they'll either i…

> Stop using bad user-hostile platforms and they'll either improve to win back users or they'll become obsolete and die as people flock to better alternatives. There's no point in migrating to some perfect encrypted federated free software platform and being alone because everyone I know is still using Instagram.

Maybe just stop using social media. If you're interesting your friends will contact you still. If you're not interesting, go get a hobby and become interesting.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by mytailorisrich »

Beltalowda wrote: post #632
mytailorisrich wrote: post #617

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But you are not making any points here, just basically a stunt. If Twitter is the de facto standard and akin to an utility why should they make decisions on what's allowed beyond lawfulness?

> But you are not making any points here, just basically a stunt. My point is that allowing "anything that's within the law" will lead to some pretty unpleasant stuff. > If Twitter is the de facto standard and akin to an utility why should they make decisions on what's allowed beyond lawfulness? I don't think Twitter is the "de-facto standard" or akin to an utility, and the problem is that by allowing such content yo…

You're still attempting to take my comments to the extreme instead of making a substantial reply on any of my points (unfortunately).

In addition, whether a certain moderation approach would "drive away people" is a strawman. This is not the question.

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Post by catiopatio »

cmh89 wrote: post #681
catiopatio wrote: post #609

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I take your point, but would suggest the joke is more pointedly aimed at society generally, and the magazine specifically. What makes the joke funny and culturally relevant — as opposed trivial cruelty — is that it represents a simple, forbidden truth for which one will be subject to severe public censure and deplatforming. Comedy is a final bulwark against uncritical thinking, and can be used to deflate ludicrous id…

>Comedy is a final bulwark against uncritical thinking, and can be used to deflate ludicrous ideas that are otherwise culturally unassailable. Comedy can inspire thoughfullness and push back against societal norms. Comedy can also be a way to normalize bullying marginalized people. Being a troll and saying 'But wait, I'm being funny!' still makes you a troll. It's not like the account in question was trying to genera…

You’re not punching down when the near entirety of all cultural institutions, journalists, and technology platforms have mobilized to protect your target from all question and criticism.

When you can be censured, deplatformed, and even lose your job for stating an objective truth like “men cannot get pregnant”, your words, by any possible definition, are punching up.

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Post by everyone »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #829
instagraham wrote: post #808

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What's wrong with screenshots of text? They're easily readable. The white background makes things stand out more than just posting text on stock Twitter. It's one reason Insta story posts and even slides have text. Technological progress doesn't mean making user-hostile design. If users like a format or medium, you can offer it to them even if your platform is capable of greater things.

What's wrong? Everything. Screenshots of text are popular because people don't seem to be able to copy and save data anymore. Social media apps don't let users download pictures anymore. I can only share intra-platform links to content. The Instagram app won't even let me select text. People get around this insanity by screenshotting the whole screen and saving a poor quality version of the data in image form. This i…

Also its terrible for accessibility. Text can be manipulated and rendered in all sorts of ways. Tim Berners Lee is rolling in his grave!!

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Post by georgestrakhov »

everyone wrote: post #896
matheusmoreira wrote: post #829

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What's wrong? Everything. Screenshots of text are popular because people don't seem to be able to copy and save data anymore. Social media apps don't let users download pictures anymore. I can only share intra-platform links to content. The Instagram app won't even let me select text. People get around this insanity by screenshotting the whole screen and saving a poor quality version of the data in image form. This i…

Also its terrible for accessibility. Text can be manipulated and rendered in all sorts of ways. Tim Berners Lee is rolling in his grave!!

He is not dead yet. So at most rolling his eyes.

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Post by [deleted] »

everyone wrote: post #896
matheusmoreira wrote: post #829

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What's wrong? Everything. Screenshots of text are popular because people don't seem to be able to copy and save data anymore. Social media apps don't let users download pictures anymore. I can only share intra-platform links to content. The Instagram app won't even let me select text. People get around this insanity by screenshotting the whole screen and saving a poor quality version of the data in image form. This i…

Also its terrible for accessibility. Text can be manipulated and rendered in all sorts of ways. Tim Berners Lee is rolling in his grave!!

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Post by croes »

nikodotio wrote: post #655
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #519

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I think Twitter should have a concept of silent ban i.e. only people that are following the account can see someone's tweet and other's could see that only by opening full link and not through search. While it was obvious that Trump's tweet was causing negative emotions in people, it is also clear that Trump had other sources in which he could express opinions and it was liberal newspaper who are the first to report…

As far as I understand all the major platforms do this all the time, and it’s called a shadow ban. Often they even stop showing to followers, you just get blended out of the algorithm

That's not the same.

A shadow ban makes your post invisible to all but the poster.

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