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Post by api »

Retric wrote: post #693
shadowgovt wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see anything in Elon Musk's past operation of businesses as CEO that suggests to me he's going to have a better sense of how to run a social network than the previous operators. I predict the best case scenario is that he does no worse.

The most likely result seems to be he sells it within 5 years after making zero meaningful changes and taking a massive loss. I don’t know if that’s a good or bad result.

If he manages to resell it at a gain, he will have flipped the bird.

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Post by kelseyfrog »

enumjorge wrote: post #689
matwood wrote: post #623

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He clearly didn’t mean to go this far, but Twitter out lawyered him and locked him into an airtight contract. His hubris bit him in the ass this time.

This is one of the problems with putting rich and successful people like Musk on a pedestal--it makes it seem like they can't make dumb, ego-driven mistakes. Irrational behavior gets interpreted as some 4D chess move that us mortals can't wrap our head around.

In fact 4D chess is a hermenutic in post-modern exigesis.

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Post by freejazz »

such12 wrote: post #676
freejazz wrote: post #599

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"These are opinion pieces." That refer to facts such as throwing out the voting rights act, and the decision on gerrymandering? Maybe try reading the opinion pieces??

Nobody has ‘thrown out’ the voting rights act. That’s an opinion. Part of it has not been upheld as constitutional. The decision on gerrymandering is real. But you seem to be thinking this is evidence of a conspiracy to end democracy rather than just normal bias. Even that piece admits that gerrymandering was invented by the democrats. This is just normal US politics at work.

"Nobody has ‘thrown out’ the voting rights act. That’s an opinion. Part of it has not been upheld as constitutional."

Semantics.

"The decision on gerrymandering is real."

Yes. It is.

"But you seem to be thinking this is evidence of a conspiracy to end democracy rather than just normal bias. Even that piece admits that gerrymandering was invented by the democrats. This is just normal US politics at work."

Do you not understand the difference between democratic and Democratic? Otherwise, what's the relevance of gerrymandering having been invented by Democrats. The court upholding it is anti democratic

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Post by Retric »

bigtones wrote: post #706
Retric wrote: post #693

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The most likely result seems to be he sells it within 5 years after making zero meaningful changes and taking a massive loss. I don’t know if that’s a good or bad result.

He will definitely make a lot of changes to the user experience of Twitter, and add a lot of features. He has already outlined some of the features he wants to add around billing and commerce, similar to super apps in China like Wechat. He has been thinking about this for a long time under the X banner.

I fully expect the logo and UI to change, but he isn’t going to suddenly prevent people from following people, sending / reading tweets or do anything else that would drive most users away because that would just be setting billions of dollars on fire.

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Post by freejazz »

such12 wrote: post #680
freejazz wrote: post #597

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Hmm, why don't you wait until they let state legislatures throw out elections to be so sure?

You mean they haven’t actually done anything to undermine election results?

I meant exactly what I wrote. Feel free to let me know if there is something about it you don't understand.

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Post by misiti3780 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #512
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

I don't see anything in Elon Musk's past operation of businesses as CEO that suggests to me he's going to have a better sense of how to run a social network than the previous operators. I predict the best case scenario is that he does no worse.

i've typed this 1000 times. this is a win/win

either elon musk is the business genius a lot of people think he is (I think he is this) and he turns Twitter around and it's awesome.

else twitter fails and doesnt exist. net positive for the world and net negative for Elon, also good for humanity .

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Post by the_doctah »

WaxProlix wrote: post #480
throw_m239339 wrote: post #424

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> What’s wrong with hardcore pornography? What's wrong with what Twitter progressives deem questionable opinions?

Hard to say with how vague that is, can you give concrete examples of these things that Twitter progressives deem questionable opinions?

"Men can't be women and vice-versa".

But you knew that was the answer.

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Post by CapricornNoble »

smegger001 wrote: post #668
pbreit wrote: post #316

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As long as it's legal, why ban anyone? The bar should be VERY high.

for the same reason you don't see laundry detergent ads on pornhub. most advertisers don't want their ads next to certain kinds of content. Whether for their own moral objections or fear of negative customer reaction they won't pay for ad space near it. As advertising pays the bills for this service you have to only host content that advertiser are willing to allow their ads near. It not about whats legal its about w…

>>>for the same reason you don't see laundry detergent ads on pornhub. most advertisers don't want their ads next to certain kinds of content.

Hmmm, if I had a laundry detergent company I'd totally support tailored ads for Pornhub. "Forgot to take your dress off before the bukkake scene? Don't worry! DirtBlaster Detergent can handle even the crustiest of stains!"

You've actually got me thinking about the viability of this across a spectrum of common consumer products.....

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Post by duud »

josh_carterPDX wrote: post #420
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

"Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers." I actually think the opposite is going to happen. He's already said he wants Twitter to be the most prolific site for advertisers saying that he thinks advertising can "delight, entertain, and inform you." If he introduces a subscription model TikTok will pull ahead and take over the entire social media space.

Meta just announced 2.93 billion daily active users across its family of apps. Reels are being shared one billion times a day.

TikTok is not taking over the entire social media space any time soon.

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Post by majormajor »

misiti3780 wrote: post #756
shadowgovt wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see anything in Elon Musk's past operation of businesses as CEO that suggests to me he's going to have a better sense of how to run a social network than the previous operators. I predict the best case scenario is that he does no worse.

i've typed this 1000 times. this is a win/win either elon musk is the business genius a lot of people think he is (I think he is this) and he turns Twitter around and it's awesome. else twitter fails and doesnt exist. net positive for the world and net negative for Elon, also good for humanity .

Big room for middle ground in there of "Elon is good at some things, bad at others, Twitter muddles around as a net negative for the world."

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Musk's ~15 recent years of experiences with mechanical/aerospace/production-engineering businesses is gonna translate perfectly to whatever Twitter is supposed to be.

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