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Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by bergenty »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #359
rossjudson wrote: post #224

Advertisers are going to be pretty concerned when their paid content is showing up in screenshots mixed in with "questionable" content. Advertising and freedom-for-jackasses doesn't mix well.

> Advertisers are going to be pretty concerned when their paid content is showing up in screenshots mixed in with "questionable" content. Are you aware Twitter already allows all sort of depraved porn on their platform already? Did Advertisers leave the platform as a result of this already? Maybe Twitter should get rid of the hardcore pornography first.

What’s wrong with hardcore pornography?

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by politician »

vehemenz wrote: post #317
chasd00 wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i've said it before, there's much easier money to be made than better against Musk. When presenting a big idea he's pretty much been laughed out of every room he's ever walked into. Then, much to everyone's dismay, he does it. I'm withholding judgment for a few years...

To be fair, he hasn't delivered on most of his promises, and it's the trade-off for taking risks. On the other hand, with that amount of wealth, the average intelligent person probably feels that they could do better, and I'm not sure they'd be completely wrong.

Tesla is a battery company, not a car company. GM, Ford, Toyota, and all of the other automakers will be buying batteries from Tesla gigafactories, not the other way around. The bluster around FSD is a smoke screen. I believe that it's just R&D for vehicles operating off planet, like the robots.

SpaceX delivers boost to orbit at a cost that beats every other major player.

Clearly, he's done nothing. /rolls-eyes

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by concinds »

Waterluvian wrote: post #373
concinds wrote: post #368

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Twitter ignored multiple reports of personal threats directed at me specifically (involving concentration camps and general death threats, etc.) "This tweet doesn't violate Twitter rules." People I didn't know, who I had zero negative interactions with before. That was way before Musk. You just can't have human moderation at that scale. They have to brainstorm how to prevent these tweets in the first place, rather th…

That’s awful. And I’ve also witnessed the same kind of abuse that goes ignored. Has any large social media site ever solved this? 4chan does by having no rules: if you show up, expect the absolute worst of humanity. Reddit does by having countless volunteer moderators who basically do 98% of the moderation. Facebook suffers from the same problems as Twitter.

The way I'd solve it is here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33377423

Basically, more siloed converations would ironically create a better "public town square", because it would reduce the need for moderation and allow freer speech.

> That’s awful. And I’ve also witnessed the same kind of abuse that goes ignored.

Honestly, it wasn't. Maybe due to my temperament (and I certainly received far less hate than high-profile people do) but I could never empathize with the "online bullying" concerns. It's the nature of the internet, and you just develop the mental strength to tune it out, or use it to your advantage as fuel. Even after those experiences I'd still be much happier with Musk's content policies, or Dorsey'd blockchain-free-for-all with users being able to choose the moderation algorithm they want. I have friends who were suspended for BS reasons and that's a far bigger concern to me.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by paulpauper »

Nice to see inaction being taken against hacked verified accounts promoting scams:

https://twitter.com/carlyodellnews/status/158610304420216832...

https://twitter.com/SSSINGHDHIRAJ/status/1586070067476840453

https://twitter.com/IllingworthCC/status/1586086464730824707

https://twitter.com/TishaCustodio/status/1586103112263094272

https://twitter.com/chscott8/status/1586102966582661120

https://twitter.com/AlianaNieves/status/1586086297906446336

right on musk's post. This person is hacking into 10+ verified accounts/day. Did it yesterday too

some things never change

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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paulpauper wrote: post #394

Nice to see inaction being taken against hacked verified accounts promoting scams: https://twitter.com/carlyodellnews/status/158610304420216832... https://twitter.com/SSSINGHDHIRAJ/status/1586070067476840453 https://twitter.com/IllingworthCC/status/1586086464730824707 https://twitter.com/TishaCustodio/status/1586103112263094272 https://twitter.com/chscott8/status/1586102966582661120 https://twitter.com/AlianaNieves/s…

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Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by throwaway4837 »

Twitter can largely be ruled by financial incentives.

  1. Add a cost for tweeting, like a gas fee. This fee is paid to Twitter.
  2. Add a cost to subscribing to a channel. This fee is paid to the channel owner.
We need financial incentives around tweeting. Letting people tweet freely gives them no incentive for quality. Twitter should be exploring ad-less business models like the one above. If it cost a few DOGE to tweet, people would think twice before posting inflammatory content.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by mardifoufs »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #290
memish wrote: post #222

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You can't be serious. Ideas are not attached to skin color. That's a regressive, racist belief.

So your interest in elon musk and free speech is just the objectively correct thing to be interested in, and isn't attached to your biography at all?

Can you tell me what me being an arab and a muslim has anything to with my reaction to musk's purchase? Try answering without resorting to racial essentialism

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Post by joshuamorton »

pbreit wrote: post #316
fasthands9 wrote: post #134

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I think one reasonable policy could be "form a council of diverse viewpoints and only ban someone if they all (or mostly all) agree the person should be kicked off" and another reasonable policy could be "form a council fo diverse viewpoints and ban someone if one (or a couple) think the person should be kicked off. I think its fair to say the committee will end up being a scapegoat - but to be charitable to the idea…

As long as it's legal, why ban anyone? The bar should be VERY high.

If you don't ban anyone, pretty soon the people who advertisers like leave the platform and you're left with free speech purists, hatemongers, and not too much else. Those people don't bring $$.

So in this case, free speech and the free market are at odds.

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